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John McCain (center) being captured by Vietnamese 
civilians in True Bach Lake near Hanoi Vietnam. 




Source: The Library of Congress 



John McCain Vietnam War POW CIA & Department of Defense Files 



73 pages of CIA and Department of Defense documents and 
transcriptions, of foreign broadcasts, from 1967 to 1973, 
relating to John McCain's captivity in North Vietnam. 



On October 26, 1967, John McCain was flying an A-4E Skyhawk on his 
twenty-third mission over North Vietnam. This mission was his 
first encounter with the heavy air defenses deployed by the North 
Vietnamese in and around Hanoi. His plane was hit by a Russian 
made surface to air missile. McCain ejected and landed badly 
injured in True Bach Lake. He was dragged from the lake and beaten 
by civilians along the shore. Thus began John McCain's 5 1/2 years 
of captivity in North Vietnam. He was taken to Hoa Lo Prison, also 
known as "Hanoi Hilton, " where he was refused medical treatment, 
interrogated, and beaten. After his captors learned his father was 
Admiral McCain he was given medical treatment . 

Early on, this son and grandson of high-ranking naval officers was 
accorded relatively privileged status . Then he refused early 
release, which he says he saw as a public relations stunt by his 
captors, insisting that POWs held longer than him should be 
granted their freedom first. Thereafter, McCain was treated much 
more severely. In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary 
confinement, where he would remain for two years. In August 1968, 
a program of severe torture began on McCain. He was subjected to 
rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours for four days . 
McCain attempted to commit suicide, but was caught by guards. He 
was then put under suicide watch. His injuries have left him 
permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head. He 
signed a forced confession during the torture. When he resisted 
further attempts to be used for North Vietnamese propaganda, a 
regiment of beatings two or three times a week was established. In 
the later half of 1969 the North Vietnamese treatment of American 
POWs became less inhumane and the express torture ended. McCain 
was released on March 14, 1973. He returned home on crutches and 
began years of physical rehabilitation. McCain later regained 
flight status and commanded a Navy squadron before retiring from 
the Navy in 1981. 



The 35 pages of original documents in this set are intercept 
reports from the CIA'S Foreign Broadcast Information Service and 
the Message Center of the U.S. Department of Defense National 
Military Command Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service 
(FBIS) is an open source intelligence component of the CIA's 
Directorate of Science and Technology that monitors, translates, 
and disseminates within the US Government openly available news 
and information from non-US media sources . The FBIS became known 
as the Open Source Center (OSC) in 2005. 

The files date from October 11, 1967 to February 20, 1973. These 
files were originally released by the CIA in 1987. They were 
released in response to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests 
relating to POW/MIA issues. The CIA files in this set were 
released by the CIA in poor condition. A transcript of each page 
has been added to the set . 

These documents do not make any assessment of the validity of the 
reporting they document . 

The source of the broadcasts and their purpose should be included 
in the conception of the material . 

Most of these broadcasts were part of a systematic propagation of 
a doctrine, reflecting the views and interests of the North 
Vietnamese during the Vietnam War. 



CONTENTS : 

Highlights in this set include: 

The broadcasts translated and/or transcribed include: A Vietnam 
News Agency international broadcast of an interview with John 
McCain. Vietnam News Agency broadcasts directed to U.S. personnel 
in South Vietnam concerning the capture of McCain. Radio Moscow 
international broadcast concerning the reporting in North Vietnam 
of the shot down of McCain. A Paris based, AFP - Agence France- 
Presse, broadcast of an interview of John McCain, conducted by 
French journalist Bernard- Joseph Cabanes . Radio Moscow domestic 
Russian report on a Pravda Review article concerning the air 
defenses in Hanoi, featuring North Vietnamese interview content of 
McCain. An Article written by French TV reporter Francois Chalais 
concerning American pilots held in North Vietnam, includes 
interviews with American pilots, including McCain. 

A January 1970 Radio Havana broadcast of an interview of John 
McCain by Spanish psychiatrist Fernando Barral . This interview 
received attention because McCain mentions Lyndon Johnson ' s 
management of the war as president, and the status of his father, 
Admiral McCain in the chain of command. Barral concludes the piece 
with a harsh "psychological" assessment of McCain. Years later 
John McCain referred to the interview in his book, "Faith of My 
Fathers." McCain refereed to Barral as "a Cuban propagandist 
masquerading as a psychiatrist and moonlighting as a journalist." 



Glossary of some entities mentioned in the files. 

AFP - Agence France-Presse 

Agence France-Presse, often abbreviated AFP, is France's largest news agency. AFP is the oldest news 
agency in the world, founded in 1835. AFP is a government-chartered public corporation operating under a 
1957 law, but is officially a commercial business independent of the French government. 



Barral, Fernando 

Fernando Barral is a Spanish psychiatrist, who worked for the Cuban Interior Ministry, the Cuban state 
security service. Barral moved to Cuba in 1961 at the invitation of his former Argentine school mate Che 
Guevara. Barrel's son escaped Cuba in 1992 on a raft and became a practicing physician in Palm Beach. As 
of 2008 Fernando Barral owns one the few privately held restaurants in Cuba, Los Cactus in Havana. 



Cabanes, Bernard- Joseph 

During the Vietnam War era, Bernard- Joseph Cabanes was an AFP correspondent in North Vietnam. 



Chalais, Francois 

Francois Chalais (b. 12/15/1919 - d. 5/1/1996) was a French news journalist, film columnist, and 
documentary film collaborator. 



DRV 

DRV is an acronym for Democratic Republic of Vietnam, also often abbreviated as DRVN. It was the 
northern half of Vietnam, proclaimed by Ho Chi Minh in Ha Noi, on September 2, 1945. The government of 
North Vietnam took over South Vietnam and it became the larger Vietnam that exists today with the same 
political system and organization. 



Hai Phong 

Hai Phong is the third most populated city in Vietnam. It is approximately 100 kilometers from the 
Vietnamese capitol Hanoi. During the Vietnam War, the city was subjected to heavy bombing by U.S. 
forces due to its status as North Vietnam's only major port. 



Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base 

Korat Royal Thai Air Force Base, often referred to as just Korat in discussions concerning the Vietnam War. 
During the Vietnam War, Korat was the largest front-line facility of the United States Air Force (USAF) in 
Thailand from 1962 through 1975. 



L'Orient 

A French language Beirut, Lebanon newspaper. 



MTI - Hungarian News Agency Corp 

MTI is an acronym for Magyar Tavirati Iroda, known in English as the Hungarian News Agency. 



NFLSV - National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam (NFLSV) 

The National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam, abbreviated as NFLSV or NLF, is better to know to 
Americans as the Viet Cong or the VC. It was a communist army based in South Vietnam that fought 
against the governments of South Vietnam and the United States during the Vietnam War. The Viet Cong 
used guerilla warfare, including terrorist bombings, assassinations, and ambushes. The group is best-known 
for the Tet Offense, an assault on many South Vietnamese cities staged in February 1968. The group was 
closely allied with the government of North Vietnam, which conquered the South in 1975. 



Nhan Dan 

Nhan Dan is the official newspaper of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Nhan Dan is Vietnamese for "The 
People". 



Pravda 

Pravda was the leading newspaper of the Soviet Union and was an official organ of the Central Committee 
of the Communist Party between 1912 and 1991. 



True Bach Lake 

True Bach Lake is one of the many fresh-water lakes in the city of Hanoi. True Bach in Vietnamese means 
"white bamboo." A monument has been erected near the western lake shore on Than Nien Road 
commemorating the 1967 shoot-down of John McCain's plane and his landing into the lake. 



USS Forrestal 

The USS Forrestal aircraft carrier was commissioned in October 1955 as the U.S. Navy's first carrier of 
entirely post-World War II design. In June 1967 the Forrestal was deployed to the Pacific Ocean to provide 
additional airpower to the Vietnam War effort. This was cut short when on July 29 she suffered a huge fire 
that began among aircraft on her flight deck and spread into her hangar. More than 130 of Forrestal's men 
lost their lives, 26 aircraft were destroyed and over thirty damaged. The USS Forrestal was decommissioned 
in September 1993. 



USS Oriskany 

The USS Oriskany aircraft carrier, was built at the New York Navy Yard and launched in October 1945. 
Commissioned in September 1950, the Oriskany deployed to the Mediterranean Sea between May and 
October 1951 and steamed around Cape Horn to join the Pacific Fleet in May 1952. She made one Korean 
War combat cruise, from September 1952 to May 1953. Oriskany's second war began with her 1965 
WestPac cruise, during which her planes hit targets in North and South Vietnam. Tragedy struck the carrier 
on 26 October 1966, during her second Vietnam War deployment, when fire ravaged her forward 
compartments, killing 44 members of her crew and air group. Oriskany was repaired in the U.S., returned to 
the war zone in mid- 1967 and rendered assistance to USS Forrestal when that carrier also suffered a major 
fire. The USS Oriskany was decommissioned in September 1976. On 17 May 2006 the Oriskany was 
deliberately sunk off Pensacola, Florida, to serve as an artificial reef and sport diving attraction. 



Vietnam News Agency (VNA) - Hanoi 

Vietnam News Agency, the offical news service of the communist Vietnam government. 



NOTES: 

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Transcriptions: 



The transcriptions are provided as aid by BACM Research, because of the 
condition of the images. Because of the difficulty in transcribing some of the 
material, the transcriptions should only be considered as an aid. 

Notations added by BACM Research begins and ends with /// 

The notation /// /// marks where the text on the page of a document is 

indiscernible . 

Any suggestions for corrections to the transcripts are welcomed and should be 
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Title: 


FURTHER HANOI CORRESPONDENT'S DISPATCH ENGLISH PRENSA 
INTERVIEW WITH MCCAIN JOH 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0003 


Pub Date: 


10/11/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


VIETNAM | MIA POW| MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY|TRUC BACH LAKE HANOI 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


Copyright: 





Release 
Decision: 


RIPPUB 


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19671011 FURTHER HANOI CORRESPONDENT'S DISPATCH ENGLISH PRENSA INTERVIEW WITH MCCAIN JOHN PAGE ONE 

///TOP LETTER HEAD/// 
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 
NATIONAL MILITARY COMMAND CENTER 
MESSAGE CENTER 

///HANDWRITTEN NOTATION RIGHT SIDE PAGE/// 

John S 

McCain Statement 

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McCain 

Statement 

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HANOI VNA INTERNATIONAL SERVICE IN FRENCH 1339 GMT 9 NOV 67 B 

(FURTHER B091315 HANOI CORRESPONDENT'S DISPATCH ENGLISH PRENSA 
LATINA 091205 — SHORT VERSION NHAN DAN) 

(FIRST OF TWO TAKES — INTERVIEW WITH MCCAIN) 

(TEXT) HANOI, 9 NINE NOVEMBER — NHAN DAN TODAY PUBLISHED ANSWERS 
TO QUESTIONS BY ONE OF ITS CORRESPONDENTS MADE BY A U.S. AIR 
PIRATE DETAINED IN NORTH VIETNAM. 

HE IS LT CDR JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN OF THE U.S. NAVY, SERIAL NUMBER 
624787 SIXTWOFOURSEVENEIGHTSEVEN, CAPTURE ON THE TRUC BACH LAKE 
IN HANOI 26 TWOSIX OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN AFTER HE HAD BAILED 
OUT FROM HIS PLANE IN FLAMES. IT WAS FROM THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER 
U.S. ORISKANY THAT HE TOOK OFF FOR THE LAST TIME. BEFORE BEING 
TRANSFERRED TO THIS SHIP IN OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN, HE WAS 
AMONG THE PERSONNEL FLYING FROM ANOTHER AIRCRAFT CARRIER, THE 
FORRESTAL BECAUSE THE LATTER SUSTAINED CONSIDERABLE LOSSES DUE TO 
A TERRIBLE EXPLOSION WHICH HAPPENED 2 9 TWONINE JULY 1967 ONENINE 
SIXSEVEN, MCCAIN COULD TAKE LEAVE IN HIS NATIVE COUNTRY AS ONE OF 

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THE SURVIVORS. HOWEVER, HE COULD SPEND ONLY A FEW DAYS WITH HIS 
FAMILY, BECAUSE HE SOON RECEIVED AN ORDER TO REPORT URGENTLY TO 
THE ORISKANY WHERE HE WAS TO BE ASSIGNED. DURING HIS LEAVE, HE 
RELATED, HIS WIFE AND EVEN HIS FATHER IN HIS LETTERS ADVISED HIM 
TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL BECAUSE A GREAT NUMBER OF COFFINS OF 
AMERICAN MILITARYMEN KILLED IN VIETNAM HAD ALREADY ARRIVED IN 
THE UNITED STATES. 

TO A QUESTION OF THE CORRESPONDENT, MCCAIN ANSWERED: "MY 
ASSIGNMENT TO THE ORISKANY, I TOLD MYSELF, WAS DUE TO SERIOUS 
LOSSES IN PILOTS, WHICH WERE SUSTAINED BY THIS AIRCRAFT CARRIER 
(DUE TO ITS RAIDS ON THE NORTH VIETNAM TERRITORY — VNA) (BRACKETS 
AS TRANSMITTED) AND WHICH NECESSITATED REPLACEMENTS. FROM 10 
ONEZERO TO 12 ONETWO PILOTS WERE TRANSFERRED LIKE ME FROM THE 
FORRESTAL TO THE ORISKANY. BEFORE I WAS SHOT DOWN WE HAD MADE SEVERAL 
SORTIE. ALTOGETHER I MADE ABOUT 23 TWOTHREE FLIGHTS OVER NORTH 
VIETNAM . " 

MCCAIN ADMITTED THAT HE PARTICIPATED FIVE OR SIX TIMES IN 
THE ATTACKS IN THE HAIPHONG SECTOR. 

FEAR STILL CLEARLY SHOWED ON HIS FACE WHEN HE RECALLED HIS DISASTROUS 
SORTIE ON 26 TWOSIX OCTOBER AGAIN HANOI. "THE BRIEFING WAS HELD 
IN THE MORNING," HE SAID. "THAT'S RIGHT. I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS IN 
THE MORNING THAT THEY TOLD ME OF THE SITUATION AND THE PLAN OF THE 
RAID, WHICH SHOULD TAKE PLACE ABOUT NOON. A RECONNAISSANCE OFFICER 
EXPLAINED THIS PLAN TO ME. THEY SHOWED ME PHOTOGRAPHS OF MY TARGET 
AND MARKED OUT THE PATHS TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE ORISKANY AT THIS 
POINT. THEY POINTED OUT TO ME A NUMBER OF ANTIAIRCRAFT POSITIONS 
NEAR HANOI AND A NUMBER OF POSSIBLE ROCKET POSITIONS, THE POSITION 
OF OUR RESCUE SHIPS, THE RADIO FREQUENCY, THE COMPOSITION OF THE 
FLIGHT, AND SO FORTH. UPON ARRIVAL NEAR THE TARGET, OUR FORMATION. 
WITH SIX BOMBERS, WOULD MOUNT THE ATTACK ACCORDING TO THE FOLLOWING 
ORDER: I WOULD BE NUMBER THREE, AND THE CHIEF OF THE FORMATION, 
NUMBER ONE. EACH PILOT WOULD HAVE TO APPROACH THE TARGET FROM 
A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THE CHOICE OF WHICH WOULD BE LEFT TO HIM. 
"WHILE MOVING TOWARD THE TARGET, WE STUMBLED OVER A VERY DENSE 
NETWORK OF FIRE, A VERY POWERFUL RIPOSTE. A FEW ROCKETS WERE 
SEEN. OUR CHIEF TURNED TO APPROACH THE TARGET AND I FOLLOWED HIM 
AT A DISTANCE. AT THE TIME WHEN I WAS PREPARING TO DROP MY 
BOMBS — I DID NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOTT I COULD DROP THEM, BECAUSE 

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///TOP BODY OF DOCUMENT/// 

THINGS WERE HAPPENING TOO FAST — I HEARD A TERRIBLE EXPLOSION 
WHICH SHOOK MY PLANE AND SENT IT TOWARD THE GROUND. IT WAS HIT SO 
VIOLENTLY THAT I WAS THROWN ON MY BACK AND WENT STRAIGHT TOWARD 
THE GROUND IN THIS POSTURE. I TRIED TO PULL THE DIRECTION-STICK 
TO REESTABLISH THE BALANCE OF MY PLANE BUT IT NO LONGER RESPONDED 
TO ME. 

I CONTINUED TO DESCENT AT A DIZZY SPEED. THEN, I EJECTED MYSELF. 

I DO NOTT KNOW AT WHAT ALTITUDE, BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN VERY LOW. 

NATURALLY I FELT BUFFETTING BECAUSE MY BAILING OUT WAS MADE AT THE 

TIME WHEN THE PLANE WAS FALLING TOO FAST. WHEN THE PARACHUTE 

OPENED, I LOOKED DOWN AND FOUND OUT THAT I WAS GOING TO FALL INTO 

A LAKE. I WAS REALLY LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO FALL INTO A LAKE. ALL 

AROUND ME BOMBS WERE EXPLODING WHILE ROCKETS AND ANTIAIRCRAFT 

SHELLS WERE STREAKING THROUGH THE SKY. I HIT THE LAKE AND WENT TO 

THE BOTTOM. WHILE TRYING TO RETURN TO THE SURFACE, I WAS SEIZED 

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Title: 


FBIS DISPATCH-CAPTURE OF MCCAIN, RICE-MENTIONS MCCAIN JOHN 
SYDNEY-RICE CHARLES 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0001 


Pub Date: 


10/27/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


POW MIA|BA DINH DISTRICT| HANOI ELECTRIC POWER| JOSEPH 
CABANES DISPATCH | MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY| PLANT VIETNAM | PLANT 
VIETNAM|RICE CHARLES DONALD|SMITH RICHARD E|TRUC BACH LAKE 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


Copyright: 





Release 
Decision: 


RIFPUB 


Classification: 


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19671027 FBIS DISPATCH-CAPTURE OF MCCAIN, RICE-MENTIONS MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY-RICE CHARLES PAGE ONE 

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27 October 1967 jjj 6 NORTH VIETNAM 

"My name is Smith, Richard E., major, PR57992. I was born in [indistinct] . Miss- 
issippi, 17 January 1935. I was flying an P-105 out of the 333d Tactical Fighter Squad- 
ron. (13334th) Wing. To Khli Air Force Base, Thailand. My job was flight leader of the 
whole flight. I was shot down by (135-millimeter) ." 

Capture of McCain, Rice 

No 1 VNA International Service in English 0537 GMT 27 Oct 67 B 

[Text] Hanoi — Among the many U.S. pilots captured in Hanoi yesterday was John Sydney 
McCain, Lieutenant Commander of the U.S. Navy. 

His plane, a phantom, was blasted down by a ground-to-air missile before it could strike. 
It crashed on the compound of a factory. The parachute fell into the True Bach Lake 
inside the capital city. From an observation post on the shore of the lake, a shout rang 
out, get him, get him! The homeguard units and people's defense and security forces 
nearby echoed the shout, get him right away! From a corner of the lake someone 
threw into the water two big bamboo tubes. Bai Dae Kai, a second lieutenant of the peo- 
ple's security service, threw himself into the water and pushed the bamboos forward while 
swimming. He was followed by many other young men. 

From the other side of the lake many people who happened to be on the scene also swam 
toward the fallen air pirate. The latter with his cumbersome outfit, sank immediately 
after reaching the water. Four of his captors hauled him up. Two of them locked both 
his arms while the other two put his head on a bamboo tube. From the pilot's inside 
pocket a man took out eight pistol bullets and a signal radio. 

Finally, Johnson's navy man was pulled out of the water near a children's swimming pool 
in the Ba Dinh District. The water dripping at each staggering step he made was tinted 
with navy blue from the survival dye box he carried. McCain's right leg was still bleed- 
ing from a wound he received while in the plane . He was bandaged by a nurse from the Ba 
Dinh District before being taken to his place of detention. 

Meanwhile, other U.S. jetplanes were making frenzied stunts over Hanoi to dodge the 
deadly groundf ire . 

John Sydney McCain today appears in NHAN DAN in two photos, one of which shows his cap- 
ture on True Bach lake. The paper carries a photo of another capture U.S. pilot, 
Charles Donald Rice, lieutenant JO, U.S. Navy, service number 710266. 

AFP Correspondent ' s Report 

Paris AFP in English 2016 GMT 26 Oct 67 (FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY) 

[TEXT] Hanoi Bernard-Joseph Cabanes Dispatch U.S. aircraft today attacked Hanoi for 

the second day running, concentrating on the electric power plant. But several rockets 
landed in other parts of the city as well, destroying houses and inflicting what was 
believed to be higher casualties than yesterday's raid. Missiles brought down two of 
the attacking planes over the center of the city. An open parachute was seen floating 
amid the puffs of exploding antiaircraft shells. An air-to-ground missile struck a 
house in the Hue Street district, subjected to bombing last August. The house was 50 
yards (meters) from the French diplomatic delegation where shrapnel fell in the garden 
today. No French were injured. 



The American planes came in several waves in. the 35-minute raid that began at 1145 local 
time . Work began quickly after the raid, the clearing away of rubble as blood-covered 
survivors emerged from ruins and nearby one-man holes used as bomb shelters here . Another 
alert came 20 minutes after the end of the first raid. It was the fourth alert since the 
beginning of the morning. Each was marked by the sound of bombs exploding and antiair- 
craft fire in an area 15 to 18 miles (25 to 30 kilometers) around the capital. 
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Title: 


HANOI IN ENGLISH TO AMERICAN SERVICEMENT IN S. VIETNAM-JOHN 
SYDNEY MCCAIN-FROM 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0002 


Pub Date: 


10/30/1967 


Release Date: 


4/15/1987 


Keywords: 


HANOI|MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY|TRUC BACH LAKE |ORISKANY CARRIER 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01159 


Copyright: 





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19671030 HANOI IN ENGLISH TO AMERICAN SERVICEMEN IN S. VIETNAM-JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN PAGE ONE 

///TOP OF PAGE/// 
NAVAL MESSAGE 
NAVY DEPARTMENT 

IMMEDIATE PRIORITY 
O P 301616Z OCT 67 
FM FBIS OKINAWA 

TO HQ NAVAL FORCES 74 903 

///SEVEN SHORT LINES OF TRANSMITTAL CODES FOLLOW/// 

///HANDWRITTEN NOTATION AT TOP RIGHT OF PAGE/// 

McCain 

Readdressed 

by LT Thiesen 

///Handwritten notation below above notation/// 

This was passed 

to Adm. McCain by 

Adm ///illegible/// 10/20/67 



///BODY OF DOCUMENT/// 

HANOI IN ENGLISH TO AMERICAN SERVICEMEN IN SOUTH VIETNAM 1300 .5 

30 OCT 67 B 

(TALK: "FROM THE PACIFIC TO TRUC BACH LAKE") 
[TEXT] IN HIS NEWEST STEP OF WAR ESCALATION — SUCCESSIVE AIR 
STRIKES AT HANOI CITY THESE DAYS — MR. JOHNSON HAS WASTED SCORES 
OF U.S. AIRCRAFT AND PILOTS. 

ADDING TO THE EVER LONGER LIST OF AMERICAN PILOTS CAPTURED OVER 

NORTH VIETNAM WAS A SERIES OF NEWCOMERS. JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN WAS 

ONE OF THEM. WHO IS HE? A U.S. NAVY LIEUTENANT COMMANDER. LAST 

THURSDAY, 26 TWOSIX OCTOBER, HE TOOK OFF FROM THE CARRIER ORIKSANY 

FOR A RAIDING MISSION AGAINST HANOI CITY. UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM, THE 

JET PLANE HE PILOTED WAS ONE OF THE 1 ONE OUT OF THE 11 TEN KNOCKED 

OUT OF HANOI'S SKY. HE TRIED IN VAIN TO EVADE TO EVADE THE DEADLY ACCURATE 

ANTIAIRCRAFT BARRAGE OF FIRE OF THIS CITY. A SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE 

SHOT DOWN HIS JET ON THE SPOT. HE BAILED OUT AND WAS CAPTURED ON 

THE SURFACE OF TRUC BACH LAKE RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THE DRV CAPITAL. 

WHAT (WERE THE — ED.) FEATS OF ARMS WHICH MCCAIN ACHIEVED? 

FOREIGN CORRESPONDENTS IN HANOI SAW WITH THEIR EYES CIVILIAN 

DWELLING HOUSES DESTROYED AND HANOI'S WOMEN, OLD FOLKS, AND CHILDREN 

KILLED BY STEEL-PELLET BOMBS DROPPED FROM MCCAIN'S AIRCRAFT AND 

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NAVAL MESSAGE 
NAVY DEPARTMENT 

THOSE OF HIS COLLEAGUES. 

LT COM JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN NEARLY PERISHED IN THE CONFLAGRATION THAT 
SWEPT THE FLIGHT DECK OF THE U.S. CARRIER FORRESTAL LAST JULY. HE 
ALSO NARROWLY ESCAPED DEATH IN HAIPHONG THE SUNDAY BEFORE LAST 
BUT THIS TIME WHAT MUST HAPPEN HAS HAPPENED. THERE IS NO FUTURE 
IN IT. 

MCCAIN WAS MARRIED IN 1965 ONENINESIXFIVIE TO [NAME INDISTINCT] 
AND HAS A TEN 10-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER. SURELY HE ALSO LOVES HIS WIFE 
AND CHILD. THEN WHY DID HE FLY HERE DROPPING BOMBS ON THE NECKS OF 
THE VIETNAMESE WOMEN AND CHILDREN? 

THE KILLING HE WAS ORDERED TO DO IN VIETNAM HAS AROUSED INDIGNATION 

AMONG THE WORLD'S PEOPLES. WHAT GLORY HAD HE BROUGHT BY HIS JOB 

TO HIS FATHER, ADM. JOHN S MCCAIN JR., COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF U.S. NAVAL 

FORCES IN EUROPE? HIS GRANDFATHER, ADM. JOHN S. MCCAIN, COMMANDER 

OF ALL AIRCRAFT CARRIERS IN THE PACIFIC IN WORLD WAR II TWO, 

PARTICIPATED IN A JUST WAR AGAINST THE JAPANESE FORCES. BUT 

NOWADAYS LT COM MCCAIN IS PARTICIPATING IN AN UNJUST WAR, THE 

MOST UNPOPULAR ONE IN U.S. HISTORY AND MANKIND'S HISTORY TOO. 

THIS IS JOHNSON'S WAR TO ENSLAVE THE VIETNAMESE PEOPLE. 

FROM THE PACIFIC TO TRUC BACH LAKE, MCCAIN HAS BROUGHT NO REPUTATION 

FOR HIS FAMILY IN THE UNITED STATES. THE ONE WHO IS SMEARING 

MCCAIN'S FAMILY HONOR IS ALSO SMEARING THE HONOR OF WASHINGTON'S 

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. HE IS LYNDON B. JOHNSON. 301300///REDACTION///50/16291 OCT 

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Title: 


FBIS DISPATCH-MCCAIN ONE OF MANY PILOTS DOWNED OVER HANOI- 
FROM CARRIER ORISKANY 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0001 


Pub Date: 


10/31/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


POW MIA| MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY|TRUC BACH LAKE| HANOI 
VIETNAM | ORISKANY 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


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19671031 FBIS DISPATCH-MCCAIN ONE OF MANY PILOTS DOWNED OVER HANOI-FROM CARRIER ORISKANY 

///TOP OF PAGE/// 

31 October 1967 JJJ NORTH VIETNAM 

The paper also reported that in their present cumulation drive to greet the 50th 
anniversary of the Russian October Revolution, and with a high determination to defend 
the capital city, workers at many factories in Hanoi are striving to achieve their 
production plans ahead of schedule . 

MCCAIN ONE OF MANY PILOTS DOWNED OVER HANOI 

Hanoi in English to American Servicemen in South Vietnam 

[Talk: "From the Pacific to True Bach Lake"] 

[Text] In his newest step of war escalation — successive air strikes at Hanoi city 
these days — Mr. Johnson has wasted scores of U.S. aircraft and pilots. 

Adding to the ever longer list of American pilots captured over North Vietnam was 
a series of newcomers. John Sydney McCain was one of them. Who is he? A U.S. 
Navy lieutenant commander. Last Thursday, 26 October, he took off from the carrier 
Oriksany for a raiding mission against Hanoi city. Unfortunately for him, the 
jetplane he piloted was one of the 10 knocked out of Hanoi's sky. He tried in 
vain to evade the deadly accurate antiaircraft barrage of fire of this city. A 
surface-to-air missile shot down his jet on the spot. He bailed out and was captured 
on the surface of True Bach Lake right in the heart of the DRV capital . 

What were the feats of arms which McCain achieved? Foreign correspondents 
in Hanoi saw with their eyes civilian dwelling houses destroyed and Hanoi's women, 
old folks, and children killed by steel-pellet bombs dropped from McCain's aircraft 
and those of his colleagues. 

Lt Com John Sydney McCain nearly perished in the conflagration that swept the flight 
deck of the U.S. carrier Forrestal last July. He also narrowly escaped death in 
Haiphong the Sunday before last but this time what must happen has happened. There 
is no future in it . 

McCain was married in 1965 to [name indistinct] and has a 10-month-old daughter. 
Surely he loves his wife and child. Then why did he fly here dropping bombs 
on the necks of the Vietnamese women and children? 

The killing he was ordered to do in Vietnam has aroused indignation among the world's 
peoples. What glory had he brought by his job to his father, Adm. John S McCain 
Jr., commander in chief of U.S. Naval Forces in Europe? His grandfather, Adm. John 
S. McCain, commander of all aircraft carriers in the Pacific in World War II, 
participated in a just war against the Japanese forces . But nowadays Lt Com McCain 
is participating in an unjust war, the most unpopular one in U.S. history and 
mankind's history, too. This is Johnson's war to enslave the Vietnamese people. 

From the Pacific to True Bach Lake, McCain has brought no reputation for his family 
in the United States. The one who is smearing McCain's family honor is also smearing 
the honor of Washington's United States of America. He is Lyndon B. Johnson. 
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Title: 


HANOI PAPER FEATURES CAPTURED U.S. PILOTS-15 PILOTS NAMED- 
STAFFORD- SANTO-SCHOE 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0002 


Pub Date: 


11/8/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


HANOI VIETNAM | ANDREWS LEWIS SMITH | BLACK TEMPERLY 
DUTTON| CAPTURED U.S. PILOTS|DUTTON|FRISHMAN MCCAIN 
RICE| HANOI VIETNAM POW MIA| LEWIS SMITH FRISHMN| MCCAIN RICE 
FLYNN STORM | POW MIA STAFFORD SANTO |SCHOEPPLE 
MATHENY|SCHOEPPLE MATHENY ANDREWS | STAFFORD SANTO| 


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19671108 HANOI PAPER FEATURES CAPTURED U.S. PILOTS-15 PILOTS PAGE ONE 

//TOP LETTER HEAD/// 
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 
NATIONAL MILITARY COMMAND CENTER 
MESSAGE CENTER 

///ELEVEN SHORT LINES OF TRANSMITTAL CODES FOLLOW/// 

///BODY OF DOCUMENT/// 

HANOI VNA INTERNATIONAL SERVICE IN ENGLISH 154 8 GMT 8 NOC 67 B 
(HANOI PAPER FEATURES CAPTURED U.S. AIR PIRATES) 

(TEXT) NAKI, 8 EIGHT NOVEMBER — UNDER A BANNER HEADLINE HAILING 
THE EXPLOIT OF THE NORTH VIETNAMESE ARMED FORCES AND PEOPLE IN SHOOTING 
DOWN 2,500 TWOFIVE ZEROZERO U.S. PLANES UP TO 6 SIX NOVEMBER, THE 
HANOI DAILY NHAN DAN TODAY CARRIED THE PHOTOS OF 15 ONEFIVE OF 

THE MANY US AIR PIRATES /// /// DURING RECENT BATTLES OVER HANOI 

/// /// OF NORTH VIETNAM. THEY ARE: 

1. ONE — JOHN ALLEN STAFFORD. NAVY LIEUTENANT COMMANDER OF SOUTH 

/// ///, SERVICE NUMBER /// /// 

ON 31 THREEONE AUGUST 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HAIPHONG) . 

2. TWO /// /// SANTO, USAF FIRST LIEUTENANT, NEW JERSEY, SERVICE 

NUMBER 3173807 THREEONESEVENTHREEEIGHTZEROSEVEN, 

CAPTURED ON 17 ONE SEVEN SEPTEMBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HANOI 

3. THREE — /// /// NAVY LIEUTENANT COMMANDER, WASHINGTON 

SERVICE NUMBER 584717 FIVEEIGHTFOURSEVENONESEVEN, CAPTURED ON 4 FOUR 
OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HAIPHONG. 



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//TOP LETTER HEAD/// 
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 
NATIONAL MILITARY COMMAND CENTER 
MESSAGE CENTER 

4. FOUR — DAVID PAUL MATHENY, NAVY ENSIGN, CALIFORNIA, SERVICE 
NUMBER 710091 SEVENONEZEROZERONINEONE, CAPTURED 5 FIVE OCTOBER 
1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN NINH BINH PROVINCE. 

5 FIVE — ANTHONY CHARLES ANDREWS, USAF CAPTAIN, CALIFORNIA, SERVICE 
NUMBER FR RPT FR 3146561 THREEONEFOURSIXFIVESIXONE, CAPTURED ON 17 
ONESEVEN OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HA BAC PROVINCE 

6 SIX — EARL GARDNER LEWIS, NAVY LIEUTENANT, JUNIOR GRADE, 
PENNSYLVANIA, SERVICE NUMBER /// ///, CAPTURED 

7 SEVEN RICHARD EUGENE SMITH, USAF MAJOR, MISSISSIPPI, SERVICE 

NUMBER FR RPT FR 57992 FIVESEVENONENINETWO, CAPTURED ON 25 TWOFIVE 
OCTOBER 1967 ONESIXSEVEN IN HANOI. 

8 EIGHT — ROBERT FRANCHOO FRISHMAN, NAVY LIEUTENANT JUNIOR GRADE, 
CALIFORNIA, SERVICE NUMBER, 642530 SIXFOURTWOFIVETHREEZERO, CAPTURED 
ON 25 TWOFIVE OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HANOI. 

9 NINE — JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN NAVY LIEUTENANT-COMMANDER, /// /// 

/// ///, SERVICE NUMBER 624787 SIXTWOFOURSEVENEIGHTSEVEN IN HANOI 

/// /// ONEZERO — CHARLES DONALD RICE, NAVY LIEUTENANT JUNIOR GRADE, 

GEORGIA, SERVICE NUMBER 710266 SEVENONEZEROTWOSIXSIX, CAPTURED ON 26 
TWOSIX OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HANOI. 

11 ONEONE — JOHN PETER FLYNN, USAF COLONEL, OHIO, SERVICE NUMBER 
15760 ONEFIVESEVENSIXZERO, CAPTURED ON 27 TWOSEVEN OCTOBER 2 967 
ONENINESIZSEVEN IN HANOI. 

12 ONETWO — ROBERT STORK, USAF COLONEL, SAN FRANCISCO, SERVICE NUMBER 
/// /// 

/// /// 3036919 THREEZEROTHREESIXNINEONENINE, CAPTURED 

ON 27 TWOSEVEN OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HANOI. 

13 ONETHREE — JOHN BLACK, USAF CAPTAIN, TENNESSEE, SERVICE NUMBER 
FR RPT FR 55413 FIVEFIVEFOURONETHREE . CAPTURED ON 27 TWOSEVEN 
OCTOBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN HANOI. 

14 ONEFOUR — RUSSELL EDWIN TEMPERLEY, USAF CAPTAIN. MASSACHUSETTS, 

SERVICE NUMBER /// /// 59025 FIVENINEZEROTWOFIVE, CAPTURED ON 2 9 

TWONINE /// /// 

15 ONEFIVE — RICHARD ALLEN DUTTON. USAF MAJOR, CHICAGO, SERVICE 
NUMBER FRRPT FR 22497 TWOTWOFOURNINESEVEN CAPTURED ON 5 FIVE 
NOVEMBER 1967 ONENINESIXSEVEN IN VINH PHUC PROVICE . 081548 
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Title: 


HANOI CORRESPONDENT'S DISPATCH IN ENGLISH TO PRENSA-U.S. 
PILOT MCCAIN CAPTURED 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0003 


Pub Date: 


11/9/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


MIA POW| MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY|TRUC BACH LAKE| HANOI 
VIETNAM |ORISKANY AIRCRAFT CARRIER 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


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19671109 HANOI CORRESPONDENT'S DISPATCH IN ENGLISH TO PRENSA-U.S. PILOT MCCAIN CAPTURED PAGE ONE 

///TOP OF PAGE RIGHT SIDE HANDWRITTEN NOTATION/// 

CMDR 

WALDNER 

FBIS 50 FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY 

HANOI CORRESPONDENT'S DISPATCH IN ENGLISH TO PRENSA LATINA HAVANA 1205 GMT 9 NOV 67 

(TEXT) NHAN DAN ON 9 NOVEMBER CARRIES A STORY ABOUT THE U.S. 
PILOT MCCAIN WHO WAS CAPTURED ON 26 OCTOBER AFTER HIS PLANE 
HAD BEEN SHOT DOWN OVER HANOI. 

HIS FLIGHT ON A RAID AGAINST HANOI WAS THE FIRST FOR HIM 
AND HIS 23D RAIDING FLIGHT OVER NORTH VIETNAM. MCCAIN WAS 
VERY AFRAID OF THE (7INTENSE) ANTIAIRCRAFT NETWORK IN HANOI, 
WHICH IS NOT ONLY (?INTENSE) BUT VERY ACCURATE. THAT IS WHY IT 
BECAME IMPORTANT. THREE OUT OF 25 AIRCRAFT OF HIS GROUP WERE 
DOWNED. THE UNITED STATES IN NOT ABLE TO BEAR IT IF OUT OF 
EVERY 25 AIRCRAFT THREE ARE DOWNED, HE SAID. 

MCCAIN STATED: THERE IS NOT ANY DOUBT FOR ME; THINGS ARE 

TAKING PLACE IN A FAVORABLE WAY FOR NORTH VIETNAM. IN PARTICULAR, 

BEFORE WORLD OPINION AT PRESENT, THE UNITED STATES IS (7VIRTUALLY) 

STANDING ALONE. 

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INTERVIEW WITH MCCAIN 

HANOI VNA INTERNATIONAL SERVICE IN FRENCH 1339 GMT 9 NOV 67 B 

(INTERVIEW OF AMERICAN POW LT CDR JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN PUBLISHED 
IN 9 NOVEMBER NHAN DAN) 

(EXCERPT) HANOI 9 NOVEMBER — (PASSAGE OMITTED ON CIRCUMSTANCES 
BEHIND MCCAIN'S TRANSFER FROM CARRIER FORRESTAL TO ORISKANY AND 
HIS CAPTURE ON TRUC BACH LAKE ON 26 OCTOBER 1967) 

TO A QUESTION OF THE CORRESPONDENT, MCCAIN ANSWERED: "MY 
ASSIGNMENT TO THE ORISKANY, I TOLD MYSELF, WAS DUE TO SERIOUS 
LOSSES IN PILOTS WHICH WERE SUSTAINED BY THIS AIRCRAFT CARRIER 
(DUE TO ITS RAIDS OVER NORTH VIETNAM TERRITORY — VNA) AND WHICH 
NECESSITATED REPLACEMENTS. FROM 10 TO 12 PILOTS WERE TRANSFERRED LIKE 
ME FROM THE FORRESTAL TO THE ORISKANY. BEFORE I WAS SHOT DOWN WE 
HAD MADE SEVERAL SORTIES. ALTOGETHER I MADE ABOUT 23 FLIGHTS 
OVER NORTH VIETNAM . " 

MCCAIN ADMITTED THAT HE PARTICIPATED FIVE OR SIX TIMES IN 
THE ATTACKS ON THE HAIPHONG SECTOR. 

FEAR STILL CLEARLY SHOWED ON HIS FACE WHEN HE RECALLED HIS DISASTROUS SORTIE 

ON 26 OCTOBER AGAINST HANOI. "THE BRIEFING WAS HELD 

IN THE MORNING," HE SAID. "THAT'S RIGHT. I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS IN 

THE MORNING THAT THEY TOLD ME OF THE SITUATION AND THE PLAN OF THE 

RAID, WHICH SHOULD TAKE PLACE ABOUT NOON. A RECONNAISSANCE OFFICER 

EXPLAINED THIS PLAN TO ME. THEY SHOWED ME PHOTOGRAPHS OF MY TARGET 

AND MARKED OUT THE PATHS TO BE FOLLOWED BY THE ORISKANY AT THIS 

POINT. THEY POINTED OUT TO ME A NUMBER OF ANTIAIRCRAFT POSITIONS 

NEAR HANOI AND A NUMBER OF POSSIBLE ROCKET POSITIONS, THE POSITION 

OF OUR RESCUE SHIPS, THE RADIO FREQUENCY, THE COMPOSITION OF THE 

FLIGHT, AND SO FORTH. UPON ARRIVAL NEAR THE TARGET, OUR FORMATION 

WITH SIX BOMBERS, WOULD MOUNT THE ATTACK ACCORDING TO THE FOLLOWING 

ORDER: I WOULD BE NUMBER THREE, AND THE CHIEF OF THE FORMATION, 

NUMBER ONE. EACH PILOT WOULD HAVE TO APPROACH THE TARGET FROM 

A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THE CHOICE OF WHICH WOULD BE LEFT TO HIM. 

"WHILE MOVING TOWARD THE TARGET, WE STUMBLED OVER A VERY DENSE 
NETWORK OF FIRE, A VERY POWERFUL RIPOSTE. A FEW ROCKETS WERE 
SEEN. OUR CHIEF TURNED TO APPROACH THE TARGET AND I FOLLOWED HIM 
AT A DISTANCE. AT THE TIME WHEN I WAS PREPARING TO DROP MY 
BOMBS — I DID NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT I COULD DROP THEM, BECAUSE 
THINGS WERE HAPPENING TOO FAST — I HEARD A TERRIBLE EXPLOSION 
WHICH SHOOK MY PLANE AND SENT IT TOWARD THE GROUND. IT WAS HIT SO 
VIOLENTLY THAT I WAS THROWN ON MY BACK AND WENT STRAIGHT TOWARD 
THE GROUND IN THIS POSTURE. I TRIED TO PULL THE DIRECTION-STICK 
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I DO NOT KNOW AT WHAT ALTITUDE, BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN VERY LOW. 

NATURALLY I FELT BUFFETING BECAUSE MY BAILING OUT WAS MADE AT THE 
TIME WHEN THE PLANE WAS FALLING TOO FAST. WHEN THE PARACHUTE 
OPENED I LOOKED DOWN AND FOUND OUT I WAS GOING TO FALL INTO 
A LAKE. I WAS REALLY LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO FALL INTO A LAKE. ALL 
AROUND ME BOMBS WERE EXPLODING WHILE ROCKETS AND ANTIAIRCRAFT 
SHELLS WERE STREAKING THROUGH THE SKY. I HIT THE LAKE AND WENT TO 
THE BOTTOM. WHILE TRYING TO RETURN TO THE SURFACE, I WAS SEIZED 

BY VIETNAMESE AND PUSHED TO THE BANK OF THE LAKE. THEY DISARMED 
ME AND BROUGHT ME TO PRISON." 

"WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HANOI'S FIRE BARRAGE?' ASKED THE NHAN 
DAN CORRESPONDENT. 

MCCAIN CRIED OUT: "VERY INTENSE, VERY ACCURATE. WHEN A FIRE 

BARRAGE IS SO ACCURATE, ONE HAS TO RECKON WITH IT. YOU ARE 

EXCELLENT ARTILLERYMEN. NATURALLY, I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A FIRE NETWORK, 

BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I FLEW OVER HANOI . " 

"WERE ALL THE PILOTS WHO HAD FLOWN OVER HANOI AFRAID OF THE 
FIREPOWER FROM THE GROUND?" 

"YES, CERTAINLY!" MCCAIN SAID, "HOW LUCKY ARE THOSE WHO DO 
NOT HAVE TO COME OFTEN TO THE HANOI SECTOR. VERY DANGEROUS! 
BECAUSE THEY COULD VERY WELL BE SHOT DOWN, HIT, SOMETHING 
THAT NO ONE WANTS! WHEN I ARRIVED NEAR MY TARGET I SAW TWO 
ROCKETS STREAKING BY MY SIDE, AND IT WAS TERRIBLE TO SEE. THEY 
FLEW VERY FAST, VERY STRONGLY." 

SUDDENLY THE AIR PIRATE WAS SILENT AS IF STILL OBSESSED BY 
THE MEMORY OF HIS DISASTROUS SORTIE. 

"FOR ME," HE CONCLUDED, "THERE IS NO LONGER ANY DOUBT. 

THINGS ARE TAKING PLACE IN A FAVORABLE OPINION. THE UNITED STATES 

AT PRESENT SEEMS TO BE STANDING ALONE, SO MUCH IS ITS ISOLATION." 




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*V«ATT>G YOU THISK OF HA*oW FIRL SAVAGE?" ASKED TKE KHAN 
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feARRAGElS SO ACCURATE, OKE M TO.hECKOK IITH IT. YOU ABE 
EXCELLENT ARTRLERYKEU VAtUftAUt, 1 HAVE KEVFfl SEEK SUCH A 

Sire ketvork, because u vas tke first tire that i flev 

OVER KAtfOl** 

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f CAUSE Th^Y COULO VERYXeLL FE S«OT DOVB, KIT, SOMETHING 
HAT ttt DBE VAWfVjjK I AREITO KEAE Iff TARGET I SAV J>0 
■OCKETS STREAK IEG PY^Y SIDE, APD IT" VAS TERRIBLE TO SEE. THEY 
EV VERY F*SI, VERY STROVGLY*'. 

! SU^TKLyWw. MR FMATE VAS SHEET AS 1FST1LL OBSESSED PY 
JKE f.EKORY Of HIS DISASTERS SORT IF. 

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Title: 


AN INTERVIEW W/TWO AMERICAN PILOTS SHOT DOWN OVER NORTH 
VIETNAM- MENTIONS JOHN 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0002 


Pub Date: 


11/10/1967 


Release Date: 


4/15/1987 


Keywords: 


HANOI|MCCAIN JOHN|FLYNN 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01159 


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RECENTLY OVER NORTH VIETNAM HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN HANOI. THE 
TWO MEN ARE LT . CMDR JOHN MCCAIN, SON OF THE COMMANDER OF THE 

AMERICAN NAVAL FORCES IN EUROPE ADMIRAL MCCAIN, AND /// /// 

FLYNN WHO HAS SERVED IN THE AIR FORCE FOR 23 TWENTYTHREE YEARS. 
BOTH NOTED THE GREAT DENSITY AND ACCURACY OF THE ANTIAIRCRAFT 
FIRE OVER HANOI. COLONEL ADMITTED THAT AN EVER GREATER 



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PERCENTAGE OF AIRCRAFT ARE NOTT RETURNING TO THE BASE IN 
THAILAND WHERE HE SERVED. HE ADDED THAT MANY PILOTS ARE AFRAID 
OF TAKING PART IN RAIDS ON THE NORTH. ACCORDING TO THE FIGURES 
PUBLISHED IN HANOI THE UNITED STATES HAS LOST MORE THAN 2,500 
TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AIRCRAFT OVER NORTH VIETNAM 



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Title: 


INTERVIEW WITH TWO AMERICAN PILOTS SHOT DOWN OVER NORTH 
VIETNAM-MCCAIN FLYNN ME 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0001 


Pub Date: 


11/10/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


AMERICAN PILOTS |POW MIA| HANOI VIETNAM | MCCAIN FLYNN 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


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19671110 INTERVIEW WITH TWO AMERICAN PILOTS SHOT DOWN OVER NORTH VIETNAM 

///TOP OF PAGE/// 

///SIXTEEN SHORT LINES OF TRANSMITTAL CODES FOLLOW/// 

L842600 MOSCOW IN ENGLISH TO THE UNITED KINGDOM 2190 GMT 
10 NOV 67 L 

(TEXT) AN INTERVIEW WITH TWO AMERICAN PILOTS SHOT DOWN 
RECENTLY OVER NORTH VIETNAM HAS BEEN PUBLISHED IN HANOI. THE 

TWO MEN ARE ///REDACTION MARK ABOVE WHICH IS HANDWRITTEN "LT. CMDR JOHN MCCAIN"/// 

SON OF THE COMMANDER OF THE 

AMERICAN NAVAL FORCES IN EUROPE ADMIRAL MCCAIN, AND WAGSCGP 

///REDACTION MARK TO RIGHT AND ABOVE IS HANDWRITTEN "FLYNN"/// 

WHO HAS SERVED IN THE AIR FORCE FOR 23 TWENTYTHREE YEARS. 

BOTH NOTED THE GREAT DENSITY AND ACCURACY OF THE ANTIAIRCRAFT 
FIRE OVER HANOI. COLONEL FLYNN ADMITTED THAT AN EVER GREATER 
PERCENTAGE OF AIRCRAFT ARE NOTT RETURNING TO THE BASE IN 
THAILAND WHERE HE SERVED. HE ADDED THAT MANY PILOTS ARE AFRAID 
OF TAKING PART IN RAIDS ON THE NORTH. ACCORDING TO THE FIGURES 
PUBLISHED IN HANOI THE UNITED STATES HAS LOST MORE THAN 2,500 
TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AIRCRAFT OVER NORTH VIETNAM 
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INFO: Jl-2 CSAF-1 FILE - 1 (19) /ONO/MY 

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Title: 


PARIS AFP BY EDUARD JOSEPH CABANES-HANOI PRESS QUOTES OF 
MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY-ALS 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0002 


Pub Date: 


11/10/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


POW MIA|MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY|HANOI VIETNAM |CABANES EDUARD 
JOSEPH |FLYNN JOHN PETER 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


Copyright: 





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19671110 PARIS AFP BY EDUARD JOSEPH CABANES-HANOI PRESS QUOTES OF MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY PAGE ONE 

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UNCLAS /// /// 

/// /// COPY TO PAD AND LIAISON 

PARIS AFP IN ENGLISH 1539 GMT 10 NOV 67 E 

(TEXT) HANOI, 10 NOVEMBER — BY EDWARD JOSEPH CABANES — U.S. NAVY 
LIEUTENANT COMMANDER JOHN SYDNEY MCCAIN, SON OF ADMIRAL JOHN MCCAIN 
COMMANDER OF U.S. NAVAL FORCES IN EUROPE, WAS QUOTED BY THE HANOI 
PRESS TODAY AS HAVING STATED THAT THE UNITED STATES APPEARS ISOLATED 
BECAUSE OF THE VIETNAM WAR. LIEUTENANT COMMANDER MCCAIN, WHO WAS 
CAPTURED AFTER HIS PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN OVER HANOI LAST 26 TWENTY SIX 
OCTOBER, HAS SAID TO HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED BY NORTH VIETNAMESE 
JOURNALISTS ALONG WITH ANOTHER CAPTURED PILOT, AIR FORCE COLONEL JOHN 
PETER FLYNN, WHOSE PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN OVER THE CAPITAL ON 27 TWENTY 
SEVEN OCTOBER. 

MCCAIN WAS NOTED AS HAVING SAID "THE MORALE OF THE VIETNAMESE PEOPLE 
IS VERY HIGH, THE VIETNAMESE PEOPLE ARE VERY STRONG, PRESENT EVENTS ARE 
MOVING TO THE ADVANTAGE OF NORTH VIETNAM, AND THE UNITED STATES APPEARS TO 
BE ISOLATED. 

MCCAIN, 31 THIRTY ONE, SAID THAT HE HAD CARRIED OUT 23 TWENTY THREE 
RAIDS OVER NORTH VIETNAM, INCLUDING 5 FIVE OR 6 SIX OVER HAIPHONG. HE 
WAS SHOT DOWN ON HIS FIRST RAID OVER HANOI, LAUNCHED FROM THE AIRCRAFT 
CARRIER ORIKSANY. HE SAID THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY 

BEEN ASSIGNED TO THE CARRIER FORRESTAL AND HAD NARROWLY ESCAPED DEATH 
DURING THE BIG FIRE WHICH BROKE OUT ABOARD THE VESSEL TWO MONTHS A 

ACT: DIA-15 

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///TOP LETTER HEAD/// 
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 
NATIONAL MILITARY COMMAND CENTER 
MESSAGE CENTER 

AGO. 

THE NEWSPAPERS SAID THAT BOTH MCCAIN AND COLONEL 

FLYNN SAID THAT THEY HAD BEEN IMPRESSED BY THE DENSITY AND ACCURACY 
OF THE ANTIAIRCRAFT FIRE OVER HANOI. FLYNN WAS QUOTED AS STAYING: 
"YOUR GROUND-TO-AIR MISSILES ARE REALLY DANGEROUS. AS FOR YOUR 
MIGS, WE COULD HARDLY YELL WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM, AND AFTER 
FIRING THEY DISAPPEARED . " 

COLONEL FLYNN 45 FORTY FIVE, A VETERAN OF THE KOREAN WAR WITH 23 
TWENTY THREE YEARS OF ACTIVE SERVICE, SAID THAT HE CAME FROM THE 
SQUADRON AT THE BASE LOST THREE PILOTS AND EVEN MORE PLANES EACH MONTH 
OF FLIGHTS OVER NORTH VIETNAM. GREATEST LOSSES WERE OF THE F105 
RPT F-105 FIGHTER BOMBERS. AT PRESENT, THE UNITED STATES 
LACKS EXPERIENCED PILOTS. 

THE PAPERS QUOTED FLYNN AS HAVING SAID THAT THE YOUNG PILOTS AT 

THE KORAT BASE, DESPITE AN /// /// OF BRAVADO, WERE FRIGHTENED 

AT THE IDEA OF HAVING TO FLY OVER NORTH VIETNAM, , AND 

PARTICULARLY HANOI. MANY YOUNG PILOTS WANT TO LEAVE THE AIR FORCE 

TO BECOME CIVILIAN PILOTS, HE WAS SAID TO HAVE STATED. AS FOR 

THE OLD PILOTS LIKE ME, WE WANT TO RETIRE AND RETURN TO OUR 

FAMILIES. 121339 ///REDACTION MARK/// 10/1619Z NOV 

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Title: 


FBIS DISPATCH -RE MARKS OF MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY RE HIS CAPTURE 
AT TRUC BACH LAKE-HA 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0003 


Pub Date: 


11/13/1967 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


POW MIA| MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY|TRUC BACH LAKE| HANOI 
VIETNAM |FLYNN PETER|KORAT AB F 105 ACFT 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


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19671113 FBIS DISPATCH-REMARKS OF MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY RE HIS CAPTURE AT TRUC BACH LAKE PAGE ONE 

///TOP OF PAGE/// 

///APPROXIMATELY SEVEN LINES INDISCERNIBLE/// 

///BODY OF DOCUMENT/// 

/// ///to questions by one of its 

/// ///in North Vietnam. He is Lt Cdr John 

/// ///on the True Bach Lake in 

/// ///from his plane in flames . It was free 

/// ///before being 

/// ///among the personnel flying from 

/// ///letter spanned considerable 

/// ///McCain could have take leave in his 

/// ///could spend a few days with 

/// ///report urgently to the Oriksany 

/// ///his wife and even his 

/// ///careful because a great number of 

/// ///had already arrived in the 

/// /// 

/// /// "My assignment to the Oriksany 

/// /// pilots, which were sustained by this 

/// /// Vietnam territory) and which 

/// /// pilots were transferred like me from the 

/// /// down we had made several sorties . 

/// /// Vietnam." 

McCain /// /// five or six times in the attacks on Haiphong 

sector. 

Fear still clearly showed on his face when he recalled his disastrous sortie on 

26 twosix October again Hanoi, "the briefing was held in the morning," he said. "that's 

right . I remember that it was held in the morning they told me of the situation 

and the plan of the raid, which should take place about noon. A reconnaissance officer 

explained this plan to me. They showed me photographs of my target and marked out 

the paths to be followed by the Oriskany at this point. They pointed out to me a 

number of antiaircraft positions near Hanoi and a number of possible rocket positions, 

the position of our rescue ships, the radio frequency, the composition of the flight, 

and so forth. Upon arrival near the target, our formation. With six bombers, would 

mount the attack according to the following order: I would be number three, and the 

chief of the formation, number one. Each pilot would have to approach the target from 

a different direction the choice of which would be left to him. "while moving 

toward the target, we stumbled over a very dense network of fire, a very powerful 

riposte. A few rockets were seen. Our chief turned to approach the target and I 

followed him at a distance. At the time when I was preparing to drop my bombs — I 

did not know whether or not I could drop them, because things were happening too 

fast — I heard a terrible explosion which shook my plane and sent it toward the ground. 

It was hit so violently that I was thrown on my back and went straight toward the 

ground in this posture. I tried to pull the direction-stick to reestablish the 

balance of my plane but it no longer responded to me . 

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13 November 1967 JJJ 14 NORTH VIETNAM 

"I continued to descent at a dizzy speed. Then, I ejected myself. I do not know 
at what altitude, but it must have been very low. Naturally I felt buffetting 
because my bailing out was made at the time when the plane was falling too fast . W 
hen the parachute opened, I looked down and found out that I was going to fall 
into a lake . I was really lucky to be able to fall into a lake . All around me 
bombs were exploding while rockets and antiaircraft shells were streaking through 
the sky. I hit the lake and went to the bottom. While trying to return to the 
surface, I was seized by Vietnamese and pushed to the bank of the lake. They 
disarmed me and brought me to prison." 

"What do you think of Hanoi's fire barrage?" asked the KHAN DAN correspondent. 

McCain cried out: "very intense, very accurate. When a fire barrage is so 

accurate, one has to reckon with it. You are excellent artillerymen. Naturally, 

I have never seen such a fire network, because it was the first time that I flew over Hanoi." 

"Were all the pilots who had flown over Hanoi afraid of the firepower from the 
ground?" 

"Yes, certainly!" McCain said, "how lucky are those who do not have to come 
often to the Hanoi sector . Very dangerous ! 

"Because they could very well be shot down, hit, something that no one wants! 
When I arrived near my target I saw two rockets streaking by my side, and it was 
terrible to see. They flew very fast, very strongly." 

Suddenly the air pirate was silent as if he were still obsessed by the memory of his 
disastrous sortie. "For me." he concluded, "there is no longer any doubt. 
Things are taking place in a favorable opinion; the United States at present 
seems to be standing alone, so much is its isolation." 

Peter Flynn Remarks 

Hanoi Domestic Service in Vietnamese 1400 GMT 9 Nov 67 S 

[Commentary by comrade Trung Son: "The Old Chap Caught In A Trap"] 

[Text] People say this piratic pilot from Ohio is very fond of studying history, 
but it is not known whether he has studied the history of the United States as 
a whole or only that of U.S. Air Force. If he confined himself to a study 
of the history of those who have used air forces as an aggressive instrument, 
he surely knew the case of [name indistinct] , whose plane was recently brought 
down by one of our valliant young pilots while on a piratic mission over Hanoi. 
It is a fact, however, that he himself, a hard-core U.S., pilot, added a new 
ill-fated passage to the gloomy history of the U.S. Air Force. He is U.S. Air 
Force Col who was born on 17 October 1922 and belonged to the 
U.S. 388th Fighter Wing stationed at Korat in the U.S. satellite of Thailand. 

While on a pirate mission over Hanoi on 27 October 1967, his F-105B aircraft 
was shot to pieces by the mighty air defense firepower of the army and people 
of the valiant capitol, and he was captured, after parachuting, by young boys 
and girls in the valiant town Gia Lam right on top one of the craters made 
by his criminal bombs. 
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13 November 1967 JJJ 14 NORTH VIETNAM 

This old /// /// 

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U.S. /// /// 

bloodthirsty Johnson /// /// 

the criminal war waged by the /// /// 

stationed in /// /// 

he received blow after blow from /// /// 

escaped death on many occasions. After /// /// 

to the United States and was /// /// 

/// /// with his wife and children /// /// 

sinful and deadly mission. 

He thought that in his retirement in 1965, he could /// /// 

civil aviation branch with a lucrative salary, unfortunately his /// /// 

needed many pilots for the aggressive war /// /// 

retired officers like him to /// /// 

Exactly three months and three days later, during which he flew the dangerous 

missions, he nearly lost his life and was captured, although before /// /// 

mission he /// /// 

he said to himself and sighed woefully 

/// ///recalls trembling with fear at the prospect of mission to the/// /// 

and seventh/// /// He said that at his base, every ///_/// had to /// /// 

a two-to-five-day course to learn about the firepower of the north and its 
various weapons. Even this old rogue was haunted with fear from the beginning, 
not to mention the young pilots and those who came to replace the veterans who had 
been captured or lost during hostile actions against North Vietnam. 

All the men at Karat, from commander to airmen, trembled with fear when 
having to carry out missions to the north. He said that on their return, the 
pilots usually talked excitedly; while in public discussion, they dared not 
talk much about the firepower of the north for fear of affecting the morale 
of those who had not yet flown to the north. Generally they confided to one 
another that rockets almost hit them or they had encountered MIGS . 

The old rogue colonel continued: "I once encountered a MIG. It came straight at 

me from where I didn't /// /// shot a burst at the left wing of my plane, and 

disappeared. It was really a skillful performance." He said: "Because the 
F-105 [words indistinct] . it is easily followed by MIGS. As for your artillery, 
generally it is very accurate." Closing his dry lips, he continued: "I was 
shot at on many missions. On returning, nobody dared discuss much because of 
fear. I was also scared, but in explaining my fear, I would have affected the 
morale of others . " 

The piratic commander of the 388th Wing in Korat said that every month in Korat 
alone each fighter wing lost three pilots who could not be rescued and probably 
a higher number of planes, mainly over the north, figures that are undoubtedly 
underestimated. It is known to everybody that the F-105 plane is very modern, 
but the Americans have lost a large number of them in Vietnam. Production of this 
type of aircraft has been suspended and the company which produced them has 
combined with another to manufacture other types . 

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DISPATCH BY SHOEPHOV 


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Pages: 


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Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


MIA POW| HANOI VIETNAM | MCCAIN JOHN SIDNEY| PRAVDA REVIEW 


Case Number: 


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19671208 FROM PRAVDA REVIEW-MISSILES IN THE AIR IS TITLE OF PRAVDA DISPATCH BY SHOEPHOV 

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McCain 

/// /// COPY TO LIAISON 

MOSCOW DOMESTIC SERVICE IN RUSSIAN /// /// 8 DEC 67 

(FROM THE PRAVDA REVIEW) 

(TEXT) "MISSILES IN THE AIR IS THE TITLE OF A PRAVDA DISPATCH 
BY IVAN SHOEPHOV FROM HANOI AND IS DEVOTED TO THE HEROIC 
DEFENDERS OF THE DRV CAPITAL. AS EARLY AS A FEW MONTHS AGO, 
THE AUTHOR RECALLS, THE U.S. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE TRIED TO PROVE 
THAT THE USE OF SURFACE-TO-AIR-MISSILES AGAINST THE AMERICAN 
AIR FORCE IN NORTH VIETNAM WAS OF SMALL EFFECT AND HAD NOTT BEEN 
JUSTIFIED. THIS FALSE STATEMENT HAS TAKEN UP WIDELY BY THE WESTERN 
PRESS. 

HOWEVER, /// /// WE HAVE ANOTHER /// /// 

JOHN SIDNEY (7MCCAIN)/// /// IN THE U.S. NAVY" 

JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN ENDED HIS 23D TWENYTHIRD PIRATIC SORTIE 

OVER THE DRV IN THE SILVERY REEDS OF A LAKE NEAR HANOI INTO WHICH 

HE /// /// PARACHUTE FROM HIS FLAME-COVERED AIRCRAFT. THE 

/// /// NOT REMEMBER MUCH OF WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE TERRIBLE 

HIT BY THE SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE WHICH HAD ACCURATELY HIT THE TARGET. 

YOUR /// /// ABOUT HANOI'S ANTIAIRCRAFT DEFENSE 

VERY DENSE FIRE AND EXCEPTIONAL ACCURACY IN HITTING. DURING 

OUR LAST SORTIE OUR GROUP OF 25 TWENTYFIVE AIRCRAFT LOST THREE. 

I HAVE NEVER YET COME ACROSS SUCH POWERFUL DEFENSIVE FIRING. AS 

FAR AS THE SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILES ARE CONCERNED, I BELIEVE THEY 

HIT THEIR TARGET ACCURATELY AND WE FREQUENTLY FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE 

TO AVOID GETTING HIT. I HAD APPROACHED MY TARGETS WHEN I SUDDENLY 

SAW THE MISSILES COMING TO MEET ME; THEN I FEEL A BLOW OF 

SHATTERING STRENGTH /// /// I HAVE BEEN TAKEN PRISONER 

/// ///OF PILOTS CAPTURED ON HANOI SOIL ARE FORCED TO ADMIT 

THAT THEY HAVE NEVER YET SEEN SUCH A POWERFUL ANTIAIRCRAFT 

DEFENSE /// /// 

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TITLED LIFE IN HANOI-MEN 


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1/1/1968 


Release Date: 


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Keywords: 


AMERICAN PILOTS | MIA POW| HANOI VIETNAM | CHALAIS 
FRANCOIS | MCCAIN JOHN SIDNEY 


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REPORTER FRANCOIS CHALAIS — AN EXCLUSIVE TO L ' ORIENT — TITLED "LIFE 
IN HANOI" AND DESCRIBING THE REPORTER'S ONE-MONTH VISIT TO NORTH 
VIETNAM. DATE OF VISIT NOTT GIVEN. THE SERIES WAS ANNOUNCED 
25 DECEMBER AND BEGAN 27 DECEMBER. THIS INSTALLMENT IS TITLED "THE 
U.S. PRISONERS DO NOTT UNDERSTAND") 

(EXCERPTS) (PASSAGE OMITTED) I MET SOME AMERICANS IN HANOI — PILOTS, 
OFTEN WOUNDED, HAVING EJECTED FROM THEIR PLANES. THEY — LIKE THE 
VIETNAMESE THEY ARE MASSACRING, BUT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS — DO NOTT 
UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM. HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THEIR 
THINKING : 



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PICTURES OF DESTROYED BRIDGES. DO YOU RECOGNIZE THESE BRIDGES? YES, 
SAYS THE PILOT, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MY WORK. (PASSAGE OMITTED) 
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FIRST PICTURES — ED.) THESE PICTURES SHOW MANY BODIES — SEVERAL 
9S83-SCATTERED AROUND THE BRIDGE. IS THIS ALSO YOUR WORK? THE 
AMERICAN HESITATES, THEN SAYS: IT IS NOTT MY FAULT IF PEOPLE ARE 
FOOLISH ENOUGH TO PASS OVER BRIDGES WHILE I AM BOMBING. SOON HE 
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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 
NATIONAL MILITARY COMMAND CENTER 
MESSAGE CENTER 

WAR: AS SOON AS YOU DO SO WE WILL REBUILD YOUR BRIDGES. (PASSAGE 
OMITTED) MY FATHER IS A MULTIMILLIONAIRE. I WILL PAY YOU FOR THEM. 
(PASSAGE OMITTED) 

ANOTHER PILOT IS INJURED. THE DOCTOR ASKS HIM HOW HE FEELS. HE 
REPLIES: WELL. BUT I MUST TELL YOU SOMETHING DOCTOR. YOU ARE ALL 
QUITE KIND, BUT YOUR MEDICINES ARE WORTHLESS. ONLY AMERICAN MEDICINES 
ARE GOOD. YOU ARE DOING WHATEVER YOU CAN, BUT COMPARED TO THE U.S. 
DOCTORS, YOU ARE ONLY BEGINNERS. THEREFORE THIS IS WHAT I SUGGEST: 
WE HAVE CLARKBASE IN THE PHILIPPINES WHERE THEY HAVE EVERYTHING 
THAT IS NEEDED. YOU LET ME GO THERE AND AS SOON AS I RECOVER I WILL 
RETURN HERE TO GIVE MYSELF UP. (PASSAGE OMITTED) 

DOWNED U.S. PILOTS ENERGETICALLY REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT THEY MAY 
HAVE BEEN SHOT DOWN BY VIETNAMESE PILOTS — AN INFERIOR SPECIES IN 
THE MINDS OF AMERICAN PILOTS. NO, THEY WERE HIT BY SAM MISSILES OR 
BY ANTIAIRCRAFT BATTERIES — BUT NEVER BY MIG PILOTS. ONE PILOT, FOR 
EXAMPLE, IS GIVEN ALL THE PROOF THAT HE WAS HIT BY ONE OF HIS 
VIETNAMESE COUNTERPARTS. HE DEFENDS HIMSELF VEHEMENTLY. NEVERTHELESS, H 
ERE ARE IRREFUTABLE PICTURES. THEY EVEN BRING TO HIS HOSPITAL BED 
THE PILOT WHO DOWNED HIS PLANE. THE AMERICAN STILL HESITATES, THEN 
SAYS: I WOULD NEVER BELIEVED IT, BUT EVIDENTLY IT IS AS YOU 
SAY. (PASSAGE OMITTED) 

A MEETING WHICH WILL LEAVE ITS MARK ON MY LIFE: 

MY MEETING WITH JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN WAS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE 
MEETINGS WHICH WILL AFFECT ME MOST PROFOUNDLY FOR THE REST OF MY 
LIFE. I HAD ASKED THE NORTH VIETNAMESE AUTHORITIES TO ALLOW ME TO 
PERSONALLY INTERROGATE AN AMERICAN PRISONER. THEY AUTHORIZED ME TO 
DO SO. WHEN NIGHT FELL, THEY TOOK ME — WITHOUT PRECAUTIONS OR 
MYSTERY — TO A HOSPITAL NEAR THE GIA LAM AIRPORT RESERVED FOR THE 
MILITARY (PASSAGE OMITTED) THE OFFICER WHO RECEIVES ME BEGINS: I 
ASK YOU NOTT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF POLITICAL NATURE. IF THIS MAN 
REPLIES IN A WAY UNFAVORABLE TO US, THEY WILL NOTT HESITATE TO SPEAK 
OF 'BRAINWASHING' AND CONCLUDE THAT WE THREATENED HIM. (PASSAGE 
OMITTED) 

THIS JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN IS NOTT AN ORDINARY PRISONER. HIS FATHER 

IS NONE OTHER THAN ADMIRAL EDMOND JOHN MCCAIN, COMMANDER IN CHIEF 

OF U.S. NAVAL FORCES IN EUROPE. (PASSAGE OMITTED) 

IN A WEAK VOICE, HE RELATES HIS STORY TO ME : I WAS CARRYING OUT 

A BOMBING MISSION, MY 23D TWENTYTHIRD RAID, OVER HANOI. IT WAS THEN 

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///TOP LETTER HEAD/// 
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 
NATIONAL MILITARY COMMAND CENTER 
MESSAGE CENTER 

THAT I WAS HIT. I WANTED TO EJECT BUT WHILE DOING SO I BROKE BOTH 
ARMS AND MY RIGHT THIGH. UNCONSCIOUS I FELL IN A LAKE. SOME VIETNAMESE 
JUMPED INTO THE WATER AND PULLED ME OUT. LATER I LEARNED THERE MUST 
HAVE BEEN ABOUT 12 OF THEM. THEY IMMEDIATELY TOOK ME TO 
HOSPITAL, IN CONDITION TWO INCHES AWAY FROM DEATH. A DOCTOR 
OPERATED ON MY THIGH. OTHERS AT THE SAME TIME DEALT WITH MY ARMS. 

HOW ARE YOU TREATED HERE? 

VERY WELL. EVERYBODY IS VERY NICE TO ME. 

HOW IS THE FOOD? 

HE SMILESSFEEBLY . OBVIOUSLY, THE LEAST REACTION HURTS HIM. THIS 
ISN'T PARIS, BUT IT IS ALRIGHT. 

DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO READ? 

THEY HAVE SUGGESTED THAT I READ, BUT MY HANDS ARE UNABLE TO HOLD 
EVEN A NEWSPAPER. 

HIS CIGARETTE HAS GONE OUT. HE TALKS TO ME ABOUT HIS WIFE WHO 
LIVES IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA, AND ABOUT HIS THREE CHILDREN, AND 
NOW HE ADDRESSES HIS FAMILY: I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO TURN OUT 
WELL. I HOPE THAT I WILL SEE YOU SOON. I WILL B WELL. THIS IS AL 
PECEPEATS: THIS IS ALL. (PASSAGE OMITTED) 
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REPORTER INTERVIEWS POW'S, ADMIRAL'S SON-ARTICLE WRITTEN BY 
FRENCH TV REPORTER 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0001 


Pub Date: 


1/3/1968 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


GIA LAM AIRPORT|MIA POW| MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY| HANOI 
VIETNAM |CHALAIS FRANCOIS |L'ORIENT| MCCAIN EDMOND JOHN 


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19680103 REPORTER INTERVIEWS POW'S, ADMIRAL'S SON-ARTICLE WRITTEN BY FRENCH TV REPORTER 

3 January 1968 jjj NORTH VIETNAM 

///HANDWRITTEN NOTATION RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE/// 
United States 

/// /// 

///inside circle/// 
McCain 

REPORTER INTERVIEWS POW'S, ADMIRAL'S SO. 

BEIRUT L' ORIENT IN FRENCH 2 9 DEC 67 P 1 M 

(Article in series written by "prominent" French television reporter Francois Chalais — an 
exclusive to L'Orient — titled "Life in Hanoi" and describing the reporter's one- 
month visit to North Vietnam. Date of visit not given. The series was announced 
25 December and began 27 December. This installment is titled "The U.S. Prisoners 
Do Not Understand") 

(Excerpts) I met some Americans in Hanoi — pilots, often wounded, having ejected 
from their planes. They — like the Vietnamese they are massacring, but for different 
reasons — do not understand what has happened to them. Here are some examples of 
their thinking: 

"We will rebuild your bridges," to this pilot, someone has brought pictures of 

destroyed bridges. Do you recognize these bridges? Yes, says the pilot, this 

should have been my work. Then he is shown the same pictures, taken a short while 

before (the first pictures — ed.) These pictures show many bodies — several bodies — scattered 

around the bridge. Is this also your work? The American hesitates, then says: it 

is not my fault if people are foolish enough to pass over bridges while I am 

bombing. Soon he adds: Moreover I do not understand you. You have only to 

stop the war. As soon as you do so we will rebuild your bridges. My father is 

a multimillionaire. I will pay you for them. 

Another pilot is injured. The doctor asks him how he feels. He replies: well. 

But I must tell you something doctor. You are all quite kind, but your medicines are 

worthless. Only American medicines are good. You are doing whatever you can, 

but compared to the U.S. doctors, you are only beginners. Therefore this is what I 

suggest: we have Clark Base in the Philippines where they have everything that is 

needed. You let me go there and as soon as I recover I will return here to give 

myself up. 

Downed U.S. pilots energetically refuse to admit that they may have been shot down 
by Vietnamese pilots — an inferior species in the minds of American pilots. No, 
they were hit by SAM missiles or by antiaircraft batteries — but never by MIG pilots . 
One pilot, for example, is given all the proof that he was hit by one of his 
Vietnamese counterparts. He defends himself vehemently. Nevertheless, there are 
irrefutable pictures. They even bring to his hospital bed the pilot who downed his 
plane, the American still hesitates, then says: I would never believed it, 
but evidently it is as you say. 

A meeting which will leave its mark on my life: 

My meeting with John Sidney McCain was certainly one of those meetings which will 
affect me most profoundly for the rest of my life. I had asked the North Vietnamese 
authorities to allow me to personally interrogate an American prisoner. They 
authorized me to do so. When night fell, they took me — without any precautions or 
mystery — to a hospital near the Gia Lam airport reserved for the military. The 
officer who receives me begins : I ask you not to ask any questions of political 



nature. if this man replies in a way unfavorable to us, they will not hesitate to 
speak of "brainwashing" and conclude that we threatened him. 

This John Sidney McCain is not an ordinary prisoner. His father is none other than 
Admiral Edmond John McCain, commander in chief of U.S. naval forces in Europe. 

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EDITORIAL RECALLED IN YEAR NOV 66-NOV 67 NUMBERS OF ENEMY 
LOSSES-WORKERS 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0002 


Pub Date: 


1/17/1968 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


AGGRESSION | STRIKE |POW MIA|CHALAIS FRANCOIS | MCCAIN 
JOHN | SAIGON HANOI VIETNAM |TRUCKDRIVERS 


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F-1986-01264 


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19680117 EDITORIAL RECALLED IN YEAR NOV 66-NOV 67 NUMBERS OF ENEMY LOSSES ONE 

17 January 1968 JJJ NORTH VIETNAM 

The editorial recalled that in the year from November 1966 to November 1967, the 
enemy losses incurred in this area totaled 68,700 killed or wounded, among them 
35,330 U.S. and satellite troops, three regiment headquarters and two military sub- 
reactors wrecked, 10 battalions, five armed columns, 86 companies, 116 platoons and 
17 pacification teams wiped out, 629 aircraft downed or damaged, and 1,900 military 
vehicles destroyed or damaged. 

Pointing to the great significance of the above victory, the editorial said: The 

/// /// 

in Quang Tri, Thu Thien, /// /// have dealt stunning blows at the U.S, and Thieu-Ny 

scheme to turn this area into a defense line to prolong the partition of 
Vietnam. They have broken up the McNamara barrier right after it was set up, pierced 
the enemy's defense perimeters on highway 9 and 1, foiled many rural pacification 
plans of the enemy, and expanded the liberated areas. 

The editorial recalled that the Tri— Thien-Hue fighters are had badly battered an American 

Marine division and more than /// /// division of puppet, regulars, and smashed many enemy 

counterof f ensive and defensive plans . 

With their victories, the Tri— Thien-Huef igthers are renewing their determination to 
defeat the U.S. aggressors totally, liberate South Vietnam, defend the north, and 
reunify their country, the editorial said. 

MORE WORKERS /// /// STRIKE IN SAIGON AREA 

Hanoi VNA International Service in English /// /// GMT 17 Jan 68 B 

[Text] Hanoi The number of participants in the strike started 11 January by 3,500 

electricity works in Saigon for a wage increase has swollen by noon yesterday to 
more than 16,000, according to Western sources. Trade union members and other workers 
of various branches in the city, including dockers, drivers, textile workers, rice 
millers, rubber trade employees, and so forth, have joined the strike. Some 1,500 
employees of the three oils companies — Esso, Shell and Coltex — will probably join the 
strike today, the source said. 

On orders from its U.S. masters, the Thieu-Ky clique on the one hand /// /// to buy off 

the union leaders and on the other attempted to intimidate the strikers with the 
decree banning strikes in wartime . They threatened the strikers with the ultimatum 

go back to work or to jail. so far they have jailed nine workers /// /// 

and threatened to bring them before a military court . 

CONDEMNATION OF U.S. AGGRESSION CONTINUES 

Hanoi VNA International Service in English 0204 GMT 17 Jan 68 B 

///HANDWRITTEN NOTATION RIGHT SIDE OF PAGE/// 
Challais McCain 

[TEXT] Hanoi The people in many countries continue to demand that the United States 

stop bombing the DRV and end its war of aggression against Vietnam. 

A total of 523 members of 50 trade union organizations in 38 states in the United 
States and Canada at a recent conference in Chicago issued a statement saying that 
nothing could justify the sacrifice of countless precious lives of American youths and 
Vietnamese men, women and children. For that reason, the statement said, we demand 
an immediate and unconditional end tot he U.S. bombing of the DRV. It also demanded 

that the United States negotiate with the /// /// for an end to the war. 

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17 January 1968 jjj NORTH VIETNAM 

Young New Zealanders on 16 December started an 18-day march in protest against 
the U.S. war of aggression in Vietnam and against the New Zealand Government's 
folly of serving as an accomplice of the United States. They distributed leaflets 
all along the 500 mile road and held rallies in big and small towns, condemning 
the U.S. war of aggression. Many people joined in the March. 

On 12 January French television screened a 40-minute documentary entitled "North 
Vietnam" shot by Francois Chalais. The film featured the people's production and 
combat activities in Hanoi, the crimes committed by the United States in dropping 
steelpellet bombs to kill civilians, and an interview with America air pirate John 
McCain. Captured in Hanoi last October. The film ended with an interview with Premier 
Pham Van Dong . 

Another 20— minute documentary by Brigitte Friang was screened on the same day 

by French Television, showing U.S. failure in South Vietnam and American soldiers 

/// //. 

In Tokyo, /// // representatives by various organizations and students demonstrated 

to protest against the arrival in Japan of the U.S. Aircraft carrier Enterprise. They 
distributed leaflets calling on U.S. soldiers to follow the example set by four 
U.S. sailors who had left the Intrepid to protest against the U.S. war in Vietnam. 

In Tunisia, students and professor, doctors and other intellectuals on 12 January 
signed a message demanding an end to the U.S. dirty war in Vietnam. The message 

said: We intellectuals in Tunisia /// /// the Vietnamese people's heroism, and express 

our solidarity with their just struggle for national liberation. It demanded that 
the United States end its unjust war in Vietnam and recognize the NFLSV as the 
only legal representative of the South Vietnamese people . 

In Holland the committee for Vietnam organized a collection of signatures to a 
petition demanding that the Dutch government protest against the U.S. aggressive 
war in Vietnam. This petition will be sent to members of the Dutch Parliament. In 
addition, ///_/// Dutch socialists have sent an open letter to Joseph Luns, Dutch Foreign 
Minister, urging him to protest the U.S. bombing of the DRV. 

/// /// 

Hanoi Domestic Service in Vietnamese 0430 GMT 15 Jan 68 S 

/// /// on a ceremony held by the radio transportation branch to receive the 

/// /// flag prize of the Communications and Transportation Ministry] 

[Text] During the emulation phase filled with north— south love and launched in response 
to the South Vietnam National Liberation Front Central Committee's recent appeal, 

/// /// combatants of the truck transportation branch, thanks to their wonderful 

courage and rich initiative, overcame the cruelest aggressive measures of the U.S. 
aggressors and firmly gripped their steering wheels, thus maintaining communications, 

/// /// fulfilling all the tasks entrusted them by the higher authorities, and 

leading the entire communications and transportation branch during the seething 
/// /// emulation phase. 

Recently the road transportation branch had the honor of receiving from the Communications 

and Transportation Ministry a /// /// prize: a flag awarded by the /// // NFLSV 

/// ///. 

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GEN CREIGHTON ABRAMS CONSULTS AND RECEIVES ORDERS FROM 
WASHINGTON WITHOUT GOING 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0001 


Pub Date: 


1/24/1970 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


MIA POW|BARRAL FERNANDO | MCCAIN JOHN SIDNEY| ABRAMS GENERAL 
CREIGHTON|COMMUNIST PARTY OF CUBA|GRANMA ORGANIZATION OF 


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19700124 GEN CREIGHTON ABRAMS CONSULTS AND RECEIVES ORDERS FROM WASHINGTON 

///TOP LETTER HEAD/// 
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 
NATIONAL MILITARY COMMAND CENTER 
MESSAGE CENTER 

/// THIRTEEN SHORT LINES OF TRANSMITTAL CODES FOLLOW/// 

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COPY TO PAS 

/// /// PARIS AFP IN SPANISH 2022 GMT 24 JAN 70 

(TEXT) HAVANA, 24 JANUARY — GEN CREIGHTON ABRAMS, CHIEF 
OF THE U.S. FORCES IN VIETNAM, CONSULTS AND RECEIVE ORDERS 
FROM WASHINGTON WITHOUT GOING THROUGH HIS HIERARCHICAL 
SUPERIOR, ADMIRAL MCCAIN, COMMANDER OF THE PACIFIC ZONE, 
ACCORDING TO WHAT ONE OF MCCAIN'S SONS SAID, AS REPRODUCED 
IN THE DAILY GRANMA TODAY. 

GRANMA, ORGAN OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF CUBA, PUBLISHED 
AND INTERVIEW HELD BETWEEN NAVAL AIR MAN JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN 
NOW A PRISONER IN NORTH VIETNAM, WITH SPANISH PSYCHIATRIST, 
FERNANDO BARRAL, WHO RESIDES IN CUBA AND JUST VISITED 
HANOI AND OTHER NORTH VIETNAMESE AREAS. 

MCCAIN SAID THAT ANY DECISION MADE IN VIETNAM IS SO 
POLITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT GEN ABRAMS PREFERS TO ASK WASHINGTON 
FOR INSTRUCTIONS DIRECTLY, AND VICE VERSA, WITHOUT COUNTING 
ON HIM, MCCAIN'S FATHER, THE ADMIRAL. 

MAJOR MCCAIN RELATED HIS LAST MISSION IN HANOI AREA IN 
OCTOBER OF 1967 SIXTYSEVEN, WHEN HIS AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN 
BY NORTH VIETNAMESE ANTIAIRCRAFT ARTILLERY. 

ACCORDING TO DR BARRAL, THE PRISONER IS IN GOOD HEALTH, 
SHOWING NO SIGNS OF DEPRESSION, BUT RATHER: HE IS CLEAR OF 
MIND AND IRONICAL, HIS PSYCHIATRIC BALANCE SEEMS PERFECT. 

MCCAIN ASKED HIS VISTOR TO CONVEY NEWS ABOUT HIM TO HIS 
WIFE, CAROL, GIVING HIM HER ADDRESS IN ORANGE PARK (FLORIDA) 
(BRACKETS AS RECEIVED) . 

"TELL HER I AM WELL AND NOTT TO WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT ME, " 
MCCAIN SAID. 242033 ///REDACTION MARK/// 24/21582 JAN 
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HAVANA GEN CREIGHTON ABRAMS CHIEF OF THE US FORCES IN 
VIETNAM-INTERVIEW BETWEEN 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0002 


Pub Date: 


1/24/1970 


Release Date: 


4/15/1987 


Keywords: 


HANOI|MCCAIN JOHN SIDNEY|BARRAL ERNANDO| CREIGHTON ABRAMS 


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F-1986-01159 


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19700124 HAVANA GEN CREIGHTON ABRAMS CHIEF OF THE US FORCES IN VIETNAM PAGE ONE 

/// THIRTEEN SHORT LINES OF TRANSMITTAL CODES FOLLOW/// 

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(TEXT) HAVANA 24 JANUARY — GEN CREIGHTON ABRAMS, CHIEF 
OF THE U.S. FORCES IN VIETNAM, CONSULTS AND RECEIVES ORDERS 
FROM WASHINGTON WITHOUT GOING THROUGH HIS HIERARCHICAL 
SUPERIOR, ADMIRAL MCCAIN, COMMANDER OF THE PACIFIC ZONE, 
ACCORDING TO WHAT ON OF MCCAIN'S SON SAID AS REPRODUCED 
IN THE DAILY GRANMA TODAY. 

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GRANMA, ORGAN OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF CUBA, PUBLISHED 
AND INTERVIEW HELD BETWEEN NAVAL AIR MAN JOHN SIDNEY MCCAIN 
NOW A PRISONER IN NORTH VIETNAM, WITH SPANISH PSYCHIATRIST, 
FERNANDO BARRAL, WHO RESIDES IN CUBA AND JUST VISITED 
HANOI AND OTHER NORTH VIETNAMESE AREAS. 

MCCAIN SAID THAT ANY DECISION MADE IN VIETNAM IS SO 
POLITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT GEN ABRAMS PREFERS TO ASK WASHINGTON 
FOR INSTRUCTIONS DIRECTLY, AND VICE VERSA, WITHOUT COUNTING 
ON HIM, MCCAIN'S FATHER, THE ADMIRAL. 

MAJOR MCCAIN RELATED HIS LAST MISSION IN HANOI AREA IN 
OCTOBER OF 1967 SIXTYSEVEN, WHEN HIS AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN 
BY NORTH VIETNAMESE ANTIAIRCRAFT ARTILLERY. 

ACCORDING TO DR BARRAL, THE PRISONER IS IN GOOD HEALTH, 
SHOWING NO SIGNS OF DEPRESSION, BUT RATHER: HE IS CLEAR OF 
MIND AND IRONICAL, HIS PSYCHIATRIC BALANCE SEEMS PERFECT. 

MCCAIN ASKED HIS VISTOR TO CONVEY NEWS ABOUT HIM TO HIS 
WIFE, CAROL, GIVING HIM HER ADDRESS IN ORANGE PARK (FLORIDA) 
(BRACKETS AS RECEIVED) . 

"TELL HER I AM WELL AND NOTT TO WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT ME, " 
MCCAIN SAID. 242033 ///REDACTION MARK/// 24/21582 JAN 

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Title: 


HAVANA GRANMA PULISHES INTERVIEW WITH U.S. POW MCCAIN- 
MEETING BETWEEN SPANISH P 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0005 


Pub Date: 


2/6/1970 


Release Date: 


8/1/1987 


Keywords: 


MIA POW| HAVANA CUBA| MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY|BARRAL FERNANDO 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01264 


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19700206 HAVANA GRANMA PUBLISHES INTERVIEW WITH U.S. POW MCCAIN PAGE ONE 

11. 6 Feb 70 /// /// NORTH VIETNAM 

///FIRST TWO PARAGRAPHS HAS HAND DRAWN "X" FROM MARGIN TO MARGIN/// 

If the Nixon administration still stubbornly refuses to give up its scheme of aggression 
and persistently carries on the war — whether Americanized or Vietnamized — to implement 
neocolonialism in South Vietnam and to perpetuate the partition of Vietnam, then the 
entire Vietnamese people will resolutely brave all hardships and sacrifices to carry on 
their just fight against U.S. aggression, for national salvation until complete victory. 

If the Nixon Administration listens to reason and acts in accordance with legitimate 
interest in the United States, with those of the Vietnamese people and that of world 
peace, it must stop U.S. aggression, and peacefully settle the war in Vietnam on the 
basis of true respect for the Vietnamese people's fundamental national rights and the 
right to self-determination of the South Vietnam people. We have on many occasion 
declared that we are ready to settle the problem rapidly with the United States on the 
basis of the 10-point overall solution of the National Front for Liberation and the 
Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam. 

Either restore peace or continue the war, the choice now rests with the Nixon 
administration . 

GRANMA PUBLISHES INTERVIEW WITH U.S. POW MCCAIN 

Havana GRANMA 24 Jan 70 p 7 N 

[Text] Dr. Fernando Barral, a Spanish psychiatrist residing in Cuba, returned last week 
from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam where he was invited: and in his notebook he 
brought back some journalistic news: an interview with a North American pilot captured 
in the DRV after bombing Hanoi on 26 October 1967. The meeting between him and the 
pilot took place in an office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations in Hanoi . 

The pilot interviewed is Lt Cmdr John Sidney McCain, son and grandson of American 

Navy admirals. His father, as the Yankee prisoner declared, is higher ranking than 

General Abrams, who commands the Yankee aggressor troops in South Vietnam; despite 

this, Johnson gave orders directly to Abrams, passing over McCain's father, who has 

a long history of services of aggression in Korea, among other imperialist merits. As 

is seen, lt Commander John Sidney has a very good name. . . . 

Following are the notes from Dr. Barral ' s interview with the Yankee pilot: 

Could you tell me your name serial number, and rank? 

"My name is John Sidney McCain and I am a lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy — 
serial No 624787." 

He added: "I understand and speak some Spanish. I studied it in school and I have 
been in Spain several times. On one of those occasions I visited the Naval Academy 
and met Prince Carlos . . . . " 

In the course of the interview, on various occasions he showed that knowledge of the 
language, saying some words, dates, and so forth in Spanish, or [using it] when he 
thought the interpreter was seeking the corresponding French word. 

Naturally, from the very beginning this established a more direct communication between 
us, and more than one question or my response was made directly in Spanish. 

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/// /// 6 Feb 70 K 7 NORTH VIETNAM 

Immediately afterward I asked him about the date and circumstances of his capture. 

"On 26 October 1967 I was overflying Hanoi in an A4E plane based on the carrier 
Oriskany when my plane was hit by a ground-to-air— missile . 

"I bailed out, colliding in the air with the remains of the plane, and I landed in one 
of the lakes in the center of Hanoi, in the middle of the water. On landing I tried 
to get free of my parachute, but I could not move, and I did not realize why I could 
not move my arms or legs, but it was because of the injuries." 

Injuries? 

///PARAGRAPH BELOW HAS HAND DRAWN BRACKET ALONG RIGHT EDGE MARGIN OF TEXT/// 
"Yes, as a result of colliding with the remains of the plane, I fractured my right leg 
at the knee, and both arms, the right one in three places. Moreover, I dislocated 
both shoulders . " 

When he told me this I superficially examined his ability to move his arms, which is 
almost unrestricted (only he has some difficulty bending his arm all the way) . Also 
his grip is normal. Aside from this, he uses a crutch on the right side only, which 
shows normal functional ability of the extremity most affected by the traumation. 

What happened next? That is, what was the capture itself like? 

"Well, many people gathered around since it was the center of Hanoi at midday." 

Soldiers, militiamen, or civilians? 

"I could not determine exactly, because they had removed their clothing in order to take 
me out of the water . " 

Well, go on. 

"From there, they took me to a military hospital in Hanoi, a large hospital where they 
operated on me and attended to the multiple fractures . I understand I received more 
than a liter of blood. . . ." 

Were you the object of any physical or moral violence? 

"No, although at the time of capture I could sense the peoples' hate or indignation, 
there were no insults of violence of any type. On the contrary, you have seen how I 
am recovering from my injuries." 

But were you not afraid of being the object of violent treatment if you were captured. . 

"Actually, I never thought I would become a prisoner; therefore those fears never came 
up. " 



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"No, I was traveling at a high altitude. I felt completely safe in the plane. . I am 
considered one of the best pilots . . . . " 

We had closed one subject, between sips of coffee enjoyed equally by the pilot 
and me, but the cakes and oranges have not been touched. I motioned to the pilot, and 
I began to peel an orange. Soon afterward, we reopened the conversation. 
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What led you to join the U.S. Navy? 

"There is a family reason, since I have many relatives in that branch of service. In 
particular, my grandfather was outstanding in World War II; he was one of those who 
made the Japanese sign the act of surrender, and a Naval destroyer bears his name. 
And my father is also an admiral; he is chief of the Pacific Command of the U.S. Armed 
Forces. Actually, it is a matter of military tradition. One of my forebears was a 
colonel in Washington's independence forces. Another was a general in the war of 
secession. Thus it was natural for me to follow a military career. Of course my father 
was not always an admiral; during World War II he was commander of a submarine. He 
has been in the navy since 1927 and has been an admiral since 1965. He holds the 
highest rank in the navy. If I had not been downed, I would have become an admiral at 
an earlier age than my father. Theoretically, General Abrams is his subordinate. . . ." 

Theoretically? 

"Yes, although in practice, because of the importance of this war, Gen Creighton Abrams 
receives his orders directly from Washington." 

I do not understand this about "in theory and practice." I thought that in military 
life everything is standardized in an inflexible manner. . . . 

"Well, look, in fact Abrams is his subordinate but since the Tet offensive of 1968 in 
view of the gravity of the situation, Abrams, instead of asking for instructions from 
my father, who is in Honolulu, so that he in turn would ask for them from Washington, 
went directly to Washington for them because the war is here in Vietnam and my father 
also has Okinawa, Korea, and so forth under his command. That is why, since the war 
is so important, he receives his instructions directly from Washington. It is a political 
problem also, not only military." 

Well, let us leave these things about political and military aside. They are too complex. 
At any rate I do not believe that your father likes the situation very much; that his 
subordinates receive orders directly from above . 

He make an expressive gesture but does not go further into the subject; rather he 
takes a tangent . 

"Look, my father is a very intelligent person, but. . when the bombings of the 

north began, Johnson asked Abrams' [as published] opinion, not my father's because Abrams 

in Saigon, in the war. . . . 

"Now I am going to speak about my wife," he says spontaneously. "She is not in the 
armed forces," h added with a certain humor. "I saw her the last time in August 1967. 
At that time I was on the aircraft carrier Forrestal when a fire broke out which 
damaged it heavily and it had to be sent for repairs to the United States . At that 
time I miraculously escaped with my life because I was in my airplane and the two 
pilots on my left and two on my right were killed." 

How did that happen? 

"A plane caught fire and one of its rockets went off. This in turn caused other 
explosions. There were 135 deaths, almost all the airplanes were destroyed, and the 
ship was seriously damaged. As a result of the fire I became famous on TV." 

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11. 6 Feb 70 K 9 NORTH VIETNAM 

As one who miraculously escaped death, no? 

"Yes, but in addition I was able to see my family and stay there nearly a month. 
I then returned this time to the aircraft carrier Oriskany and 1 month later I 
was shot down . " 

You said that you were going to talk to me about your wife but you continue on the 
subject of the war. . . . 

He smiles as he becomes aware that he drifted from the subject and adds: "She is 
very pretty. Before marrying me she was a model for magazines and on TV. We have a 
3-year-old girl. When I saw her she was still a baby. She also has two children from 
a former marriage. She has now returned to work as a model on TV." 

How did you find this out? 

"I had a letter from her after I became a prisoner." 

/// /// [as published] 

"Yes, they authorized me to receive a letter and presents on Christmas Eve and I 
was able to send greetings cards . " 

Would you like me to relay a message for you? 

"If you would be so kind. Tell her I am well, that I wish her happiness, and not 
to worry about me . " 

The address? 

"Her name is Carol McCain, Mrs. Carol McCain. She lives in. . . ." 

It is difficult for me to understand the address and I ask him to write it in my 
notebook. He writes with his left hand: Mrs Carol McCain, 553 Fatio Lane, 
Orange Park, Florida, USA [address as published] . I explain that I will not 
see her personally but that I will relay the message. 

What schooling did you have? 

"I went to the Naval Academy. I took two university majors, electrical engineering 
and naval architecture. The courses were very difficult; 1,200 of us began and 
only 400 graduated. Discipline was very strict also. I was also in the Spanish 
Naval Academy. It was there that I met Prince Carlos, as I said before. When I 
finished I had two choices; to be a naval officer or a pilot. . I chose to be 
a pilot. I had to study another year and a half and I graduated in 1958. I 
trained intensively. I flew many hours in training to become a jet pilot." 

Many? 

"Yes, 4,000. They really only demand 200 but I flew 4,000 hours." 

/// /// [as published] 

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11. 6 Feb 70 K109 NORTH VIETNAM 

At any rate the difference between 200 and 4,000 appears to be great. 

"Well, look, it was because I wanted to be an astronaut. That is why I also engaged 
in a great deal of sports: boxing, wrestling, swimming, camping, and so forth." 

And what happened? 

"I had to come to Vietnam." 

What is your religion? 

"I am a Protestant." 

Being in captivity, has your faith increased? Do you have hopes for the future? 

"My beliefs have always been more or less of the same intensity. As long as the war 
lasts I do not have much hope for the future . " 

From the psychiatric point of view, Dr. Barral has the following opinion of the personality 
of the prisoner who is responsible for many criminal bombings of the people of DRV: 

He showed himself to be intellectually alert during the interview. From a morale point 
of view he is not in traumatic shock. He is neither dejected nor depressed. He was 
able to be sarcastic, and even humorous, indicative of psychic equilibrium. From the 
moral and ideological point of view he showed us he is an insensitive individual 
without human depth, who does not show the slightest concern, who does not appear to 
have thought about the criminal acts he committed against a population from the almost 
absolute impunity of his airplane, and that nevertheless those people saved his life, 
fed him, and looked after his health, and he is now healthy and strong. I believe 
that he bombed densely populated places for sport . I noted he was hardened, that 
he spoke of banal things as if he were at a cocktail party. 

During the interview he quietly drank three cups of coffee and smoked one of the 
cigarettes the Vietnamese had placed on the central table . 

The idea of interviewing this pilot occurred to me while I was returning from the 

Fourth Zone of the DRV, Quang Binh Province leveled by the bombings . I was sick of 

seeing destruction of a people of such tremendous moral fiber . Here I thought that 

I ought to meet one of the pilots. What would they be like, I wondered — the perpetrators 

of the destruction, of the savagery? I had come to Vietnam in response to an 

invitation and my intention was to investigate the traditional [social] structures 

and social change in Vietnam. But when I interviewed a young militiawoman with a rifle 

and a smile and she told us about her humble and heroic life, I saw that the bombings 

had awakened her sense of hate and action, but not fear. 

It was clear to me that that girl's moral process and conscience — in her capacity as 

a prototype of her people — were not the result of chance or the mechanical reaction 

to aggression, but were the very deep-rooted result of a unique social system and subsan///TEXT HITS 

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ideological work. 

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Title: 


REPORTS ON POW CONDITIONS IN HANOI-MENTIONS FLYNN PETER- 
MCCAIN 


Abstract: 




Pages: 


0001 


Pub Date: 


2/20/1973 


Release Date: 


4/15/1987 


Keywords: 


HANOI| MCCAIN JOHN SYDNEY| FLYNN PETER|POW CONDITIONS 


Case Number: 


F-1986-01159 


Copyright: 





Release 
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RIPPUB 


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19730220 REPORTS ON POW CONDITIONS IN HANOI-MENTIONS FLYNN PETER-MCCAIN JOHN SIDNEY 

///TWENTY-THREE SHORT LINES OF TRANSMITTAL CODES FOLLOW/// 

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UNCLASS PARIS RUOO 

MTI CORRESPONDENT REPORTS ON POW CONDITIONS IN HANOI 

/// /// BUDAPEST MTI'S IN ENGLISH 14 60 GMT 20 FEB 73 L 

((TEXT)) /// /// MTI'S CORRESPONDENT IN HANOI, VISITED AN 

AMERICAN PRISON CAMP IN THE CAPITAL OF THE DRV. IN HIS REPORT 

HE WRITES THAT THE PRISONERS IN THE CAMP LIVE IN HUMANE CIRCUMSTANCES 

AND /// /// TO THE STRICT OF THE DAY. IN THE 120 

ONE HUNDRED TWENTY PERSON CAMP THERE IS NOTT ENOUGH ROOM FOR 

/// /// PRISONERS TO DO PHYSICAL WORK, SO DURING THE DAY THEY ARE 

/// /// IN CLEANING THE CELLS AND BUILDING SHELTERS, BUT THEY 

TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME SPORTS AS THERE IS BASKETBALL AND 
A VOLLEYBALL COURSE INSIDE THE CAMP. 

THE PRISONERS ARE GIVEN MEAT THREE TIMES A WEEK. THE MONTHLY 
PORTION PER HEAD IS 2 . 5 TWO POINT FIVE-3 THREE KILOS. THEY 

/// /// EVERY OTHER DAY AND MOST GO THROUGH A MEDICAL EXAMINATION 

ONCE IN A HALF YEAR, THE INJURED RECEIVE GOOD MEDICAL CARE: 
LIEUTENANT-COLONEL JOHN PETER FLYNN, FORMER DEPUTY COMMANDER IN 
CHIEF OF THE CORATE (THAILAND) BASE. BROKE BOOTH KNEES WHEN JUMPING 

OUT OF /// ///CRASHING PLANE. THEY INSERTED SMALL METAL PLATES INTO 

HIS LEGS. MAJOR MCCAIN, SON OF ADMIRAL JOHN MCCAIN, BROKE 
BOTH ARMS WHEN HIS PLANE WAS CRASHING INTO A LAKE. TODAY HE 
REGULARLY PLAYS BASKETBALL. 

IN THE CAMP'S OWN LIBRARY THE PRISONERS ARE LENT ENGLISH 
LANGUAGE BOOKS EDITED IN VIETNAM OR ENGLISH LANGUAGE MAGAZINES 

/// /// IN THE SOCIALIST COUNTRIES. THEY NEED SPECIAL PERMISSION 

TO SEE AMERICAN BOOKS. FOLLOWING THE SIGNING OF THE PARIS 

/// /// THE PRISONERS /// /// OF THE /// /// ON THE 

WALL OF THE READING HALL, /// /// FREED, THE PRISONERS ARE 

/// /// THEIR PERSONAL /// /// AND OTHER NONMILITARY 

/// ///• 

ALL ATTEMPTS TO ESCAPE /// /// DISCOVERED AND /// /// BACK 

/// /// PRISONERS LEARNED 

/// /// TURNED TO BE 

/// ///ASSAULTS. THE 

/// /// ///REDACTION MARK/// 11/16024 FEB 

///STAMP RIGHT BOTTOM OF PAGE/// 
Approved for Release 
Date 15 APR 1987 

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